kelA Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Here is a little information on the new Pioneer flagship receiver. Looks pretty massive, comparable to the Denon5805, in terms of size. Seems more MFG are going to Class D amplification in their products. List price around $7000. http://uk.cinenow.com/videos/1092-pioneer-elite-sc-09tx-flagship-av-receiver-up-close-cedia-expo-2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzoz01 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Looks pretty interesting. I have a friend with a Denon 5803, and I have to say it sounds incredible, but I always wonder why not go seperates at that point? $4-5k will buy a great preamp and $2-3k will buy an amp that I would think would be as good as the class d they are putting in this reciever. Anthem AVM50 and an Outlaw or B&K amp seems like a better deal for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelA Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 I agree 100% about going seperates at that price point. Its not like I have that type of expendable cash anyway, if I did I would probably get a McIntosh amp[] Even the new amps from Emotiva look pretty good as far as specs. The big selling point for the Class D amp is that they are so efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzoz01 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I guess I can't really say anything negative now that I think about it. Sunfire's "tracking down converter" is bascily the same thing as a class D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yeah saw them all the flagship receivers,at this price level an Anthem Statement combo buldozes these heavyweight receivers. Separates should be the way over 5K. I once had the Denon 5800 heavyweight...yeah big,has descent amp section...a zillion inputs and outputs...almost connect the fidge. But...a Sunfire pre/pro matched to multiple SImAudio Celeste amps had a clear advantage in sound quality. When driving my power hungry Dynes. So IMO these receivers are for those who are restricted by space or want as few components as possible. They are quality,yes the sound quality is very good but it does NOT match dedicated separates (provided they are matched well). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 $ 7,000 will buy you a $ 1000 receiver and 6 2500 watt amps ( bridged into 8 ohms ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Class D has uber low distortion levels too...now I'm just waiting for the day when active crossovers become the norm - with the very low cost associated with class D it shouldn't be too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkp Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 That thing is a tank! Wonder if it's rack-mountable? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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