Craig6519 Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 Ok heres my dilema, I have everthing I need for 6.1, I have two Acurus 200x3 amps, and all the speaks needed for a 6.1 setup, just look at my signature. The problem Is my Yamaha DSP-A1 will not do 6.1, as much as I love It I'm ready to upgrade. However I can't afford a 2,000+ pre-amp and I really am fed up with waiting with outlaw. So for the price the Harmon Kardon 520 seems to be loaded with features that I really like, do any of you guys out there use the H/K as a pre-amp? Would very much appreciate your assistance. Craig ------------------ Klipsch KLF30 Mains (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Front Center (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Rear Center (Awaiting 6.1) Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds Dual SVS 20-39CS+ Sub's (coming soon) Samson S1000 Sub Amp Yamaha DSP-A1 (2)Acurus 200x3 Yamaha MDX-793 Mini disc Yamaha TX-492 Tuner Sony CDP-C701ES 5 disc Player Sony S565D DVD Hitachi MX6080EM Muli-system HI-FI VCR Hitachi 29" T.V. Denon DP-37F Turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 Hey Craig.Don't have an answer for your HK question but sure would like to hear your system when you get the pre setup. Should sound GREAT! After assembling all those wonderful pieces that you now own,I would be very careful in the selection of the pre/pro.Since you don't want to lay out 2K right now,have you thought about maybe a decent receiver in lieu of a preamp-processor? Say maybe a Denon 3802 at ~$800? Just a thought.Good luck to you. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 13, 2002 Share Posted January 13, 2002 or craig, if u don't have to have the true built-in decoders for es/ex matrix or es 6.1 discrete (not much out there in this so far), u could use a prologic receiver laying around, or buy 1, for a low cost 6.1 matrix solution. we were talkin about that on some other thread. also, aab has his parasound 4sale, a device that'll turn your existing 5.1's rear outputs into 6.1 matrix. just a thought. ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 01-13-2002 at 10:54 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Craig, YES you can use an HK av receiver for a pre amp. It is probably the best choice for you right now. I bought my HK AVR 65 from a guy locally that used it as a pre amp w/ his HK signature amp. He said it was great! Of course its not as good as an actuall pre amp but it will sound good. Regards Monty R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 Here are the features of the 520. Well TTK, the Harmon Kardon is a true reciever, is'nt it? also boa12 if you read some of the features that i've cut and pasted you'll see that thr H/K has true DTS-ES and Logic 7 which I think is pretty cool too. It also has 8 channel direct inputs. besides DD-ES, is it missing anything else? AVR 520 7.1-Channel Audio/Video Receiver With Dolby® Digital, DTS®, Logic 7®, VMAx® and HDCD® Decoding With the AVR 520, Harman Kardon begins a new era in the history of the popularly priced audio/video receiver. Its 7.1-channel surround sound processing opens the door to a variety of new surround modes, such as DTS-ES® 6.1-channel decoding, 7.1 channels of Harman Kardon's exclusive Logic 7, and 8-channel direct inputs. Other advanced features include wideband, HDTV-ready component video switching; HDCD; MP3; Dolby Pro Logic® II; VMAx; 6 digital inputs and 3 outputs; front-panel A/V inputs and a coax digital input switchable to output mode; and a backlit, programmable EzSet remote control. Craig ------------------ Klipsch KLF30 Mains (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Front Center (OAK) Klipsch KLF-C7 Rear Center (Awaiting 6.1) Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds Dual SVS 20-39CS+ Sub's (coming soon) Samson S1000 Sub Amp Yamaha DSP-A1 (2)Acurus 200x3 Yamaha MDX-793 Mini disc Yamaha TX-492 Tuner Sony CDP-C701ES 5 disc Player Sony S565D DVD Hitachi MX6080EM Muli-system HI-FI VCR Hitachi 29" T.V. Denon DP-37F Turntable This message has been edited by Craig6519 on 01-14-2002 at 03:06 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 craig, definitely wasn't dissin the hk. just throwing in a way to save about $500 & still do 6.1 matrix. that hk does have all the features/decoding. also DPL II, & that logic 7 seems great - they put that in the lexicon pre/pros. but those go for $5-12k that 7 does at least the same thing as DD EX. nice unit for just around $700. ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 01-14-2002 at 03:38 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 Sorry boa12 I wasn't trying to come across that way to you. Is there any feature out there that the H/K doesn't have that I might regret down the road? My biggest concern is it being hiss free when combined with my acurus amps!!! that really bugs me. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 craig, i wasn't trying to come across like u were trying to come across that way. this damn medium how is it for upgradability? that's something i valued for getting a seperate. well, at least the capability & intent for upgrades. for that look to see if it has an rs-232 port. also an ieee jack is nice for future tech changes like a firewire. then again for that price u can't ask 2much. for the hiss, is there anyway u can hook it up & demo it w/ your sys? i'd do that if it's an issue. only way to really know. i can't find really any format it doesn't have. thx i guess, though that's more like an equalizer type enhancement. not a format. EX is a joint developement of dolby & thx (lucasfilms). at 1st they called it thx ex surround, but now were seeing dolby digital EX too. same thing. it uses a matrixing process for the rear centers & all u need at least is a generic decoder that'll do "6.1/7.1", like logic 7, or that way i 1st mentioned above. it's not discrete 6.1 or "7.1 channels" like dts es discrete does. it uses surround info from the RR & LR channels in 5.1 to do a blended "channel(s)". like prologic does for the front center channel. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hi Again Boa12, No it would appear that the H/K is not upgradeable, but your right for that price then what would anyone expect. I was not aware that DD-EX and Logic 7 were similar, that was a concern of mine as i didn't want to miss out on dd-ex unless it also came with dts-es as i prefer dts to dd anyway. Craig This message has been edited by Craig6519 on 01-15-2002 at 04:51 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hello again Craig! Like I said I don't know anything about HK.I've always avoided HK/JBL. Good luck to you and yes,the EX is nice. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig6519 Posted January 14, 2002 Author Share Posted January 14, 2002 TTK, why have you always avoided H/K? I've had zero expierience with them and that's why so many questions. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montigue Posted January 14, 2002 Share Posted January 14, 2002 ya Keith why do you avoid HK? I can tell you that they are better than Yamaha or Denon by far. I had all of them at once and was able to a&b the receivers with Klipsch speakers. The HK sounds richer and fuller in both music and HT... hands down. Regards Monty R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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