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What's the budget on the sub? Sunfire makes some nice sounding little beasts, if size is an issue. Also, SVS is getting ready to launch the PB1O-ISD which will rock for ~$400. John

You've got a PM. John

I"m a little late getting here. If you've already gotten the 2400, CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is an excellent unit. If not, I will suggest one alternative not yet mentioned. I would suggest you give a Marantz a listen and see if you like it. John

Heywood, Which SVS? John

I run a RB\C\S-25 system and recently purchased an SVS 25-31PCi, tuned to 22Hz at the factory. I can not tell you how pleased I am w/ this sub! My former sub was a KSW-10, which was OK. I have listened to a few different subs (Klipsch, Velodyne and M&K most notably) and all I can say is, I LOVE this sub. My room is fairly large, and it fills it w/ ease. The 20-39PC+ and PB2-ISD previously mentioned are a lot of sub for the money. Either of those two subs will put a on your face for days. John

I agree that this is a good deal on the RB-75s. The RB-35s are nice, but that big horn on the 75s is REALLY nice. Enjoy your new system. John

The KSW-10 is OK. Compared to many other subs I've heard at places like CC & BB, it's much better. However, it doesn't BEGIN to compare to the SVS for $175 more. That new little beast that SVS is coming out w/ for $400 is going to rule that market, IMHO. John

First off let me preface the following post w/ this: I am a HUGE Klipsch fan. I always try to recommend Klipsch speakers to anyone interested in new speakers. I got myself my birthday present a little early. Last Friday I received my SVS 25-31PCi. I had it custom tuned to 22Hz at the factory. I sacrificed about 1.5dBs according to Tom V, but thought the added depth was worth it. I calibrated it using the S&V HTTU disc and a Rat Shack SPL meter. Then I started listening. The first thing I listened to was music. Norah Jones: Come Away With Me and her Live in New Orleans DVD. I've heard of subs disappearing into the mains when done right, and I couldn't believe it when I heard it. My sub is placed in an awkward room, BEHIND my couch (see pic). I started off by playing some Norah Jones, from both her Come Away With Me CD and her Live in New Orleans DVD. I couldn't believe the way the mains and sub blended. When my wife started listening she asked if it was on, because there was no boom. I was able to show her very quickly using my receiver that it was, and how well it blended. I can switch from "auto" mode, which uses the sub and the mains as small, and "source direct" which uses no sub and the mains as large very easily and quickly. She and I both were surprised at how the bass (the instrument) seemed to just be cut off when the sub was cut off. Then it was there, completely naturally once the sub was used again. We then listened to some movies. My KSW-10 did a decent job w/ movies, but was quite boomy. This one just fills the room w/ very low bass. When Darla taps on the glass in Finding Nemo, or when the cave troll's hammer hits the floor in LOTR: FOTR, you FEEL it. Other parts have a more subtle depth to them that wasn't there before. For example in Finding Nemo when Nigel flies between the mast and the sail (right before Darla), there's a bass part there that I'd never really noticed before. Basically, here's my point. If someone is looking for ~$600 sub, they need to check this thing out. I've recommended SVS subs on this forum and others because of other people's experiences and from examining the numbers. Now I can recommend them even more highly because of my personal experience. John

I believe "speed" is usually used to refer to how fast the driver can "react" to changes. In well designed products, such as both the SVS and HSU, "speed" should not be an issue. The biggest concern w/ speed was in the 70s-80s w/ those big drivers being used in full-range speakers. Many of them had underpowered magnets, coils, etc. and simply did not have enough EMF to "accelerate" the driver the way it needed to be. John

How about another pair of RB-25s? It would cost $120 more by MSRP pricing and you get another speaker. If not the RBs then the RC-25 would be the best choice. John

Using both outputs should be fine. In my KSW-10 manual it suggests using a "Y" to connect a single out from a receiver to both inputs for a 6dB gain. Nothing will hurt the sub as long short of cranking your receiver volume and/or the sub gain too much. (Ok, throwing out off the top of a moving semi going over the Golden Gate bridge would hurt it, but you know what I mean.) Disable the cross-over on your sub, period. John

Well you COULD turn the gain on the sub up more, but most people who have SVS subs don't even their gains as high as you do. It COULD be a phase issue, but not likely. You may want to try setting it to 0 instead of 90. Do you have your mains set to small or large? If they're set to large is your receiver's "Bass Mix" set to "Both" or "Sub". If it's both, try just sub. Finally how is the sub connected to the receiver? You are using an RCA cable from the LFE out to the sub, correct? Last thing to check, and I realize this SHOULD not be the case, but make sure it's not something like "Night mode" being on or some other type of "limiter" enabled in the receiver. John

I heard a two channel Rotel/Paradigm system the other day that I had to walk away from before I started asking questions like, "If I carry this one out, can you get the other one?" John

---------------- On 8/17/2004 12:56:42 AM dr-dezibel wrote: Denon works well for me so I gladly recommend them, but in your price range I would also take a look at marantz. Maybe you can have a great discount on the older models 5300 or 7300. ---------------- My sentiments exactly. If you do a little looking around, I bet you can get ahold of an SR-5400 in your price range. John

How about going w/ some RB-75s all around? You could mate them w/ an SVS tube. That would give you something, different, but not TOO different. BTW, the Premier speakers shown @ CES did look really good, but I don't know when they'll be available. John

---------------- On 8/6/2004 3:06:32 PM CAS wrote: I really want to recommend a 25-31pci for the heck of a deal you'd get compared to the RW series, but with the limited frequency response of the satellites (100 Hz or so it says) I'd probably go with a Klipsch product, too. ---------------- I found out the same thing when I was thinking about an SVS to go w/ my Quintets. The RSW-10 may be a viable option, if it's not too expensive. John- Who was completely joking about the PB-2 Ultra, BTW.

Maybe it's a large/small issue? John

Mrmcgoo, that's interesting. I've heard of several other people receiving that same message after using the YPAO. I wonder if that's what's causing it. Most people have ignored it and left the speakers alone after verifying they were connected properly. John

First off welcome to the fray!!! As for speaker wire, check out www.partsexpress.com and you can grab some 12ga. jacketed wire for pretty cheap. They also have some very nice banana plugs if you need some of them, too. John

I assume you have a valid reason for not getting RB-75s for the surrounds. In that case, go w/ the 35s as their horn is closer to the 75s' horns. The 25s have a 5" horn, the 35s a 6" horn, and the 75s have an 8" horn. Also, if you get the 35s, they will make a nice bedroom system later if/when you upgrade to RB-75s all around. Don't forget, you can get 3 pairs of RB-75s for a 6.1 setup and have a lot of fun. John

Another vote for the Reference series. Even if yoiu can't swing the whole package now, get the mains you want and then you can add the rest later. What's the MSRP of the Synergy System 6, out of curiousity? John

---------------- On 8/4/2004 3:00:10 PM CAS wrote: With the KSW-10 about the only quality you'll get is the "relatively inexpensive." It depends on your room size and your taste in what you mean by "authoritative." A KSW-10 is well built but will be somewhat boomy and definitely not authoritative. No offense, just layin on some truth. Give me a price range. ---------------- I agree w/ what you said. I was relaying my experience, AND trying to keep the items in the same ball park, pricewise. The KSW-10 will NOT blow out his walls, that's for sure. But then again neither will the Quintets. The Quintets and KSW-10 are both fairly good options at their price points. The KSW-12 will offer some more "authority", for not a whole lot more money. Therefore, I took no offense at your reply. You're also correct that he needs to provide a budget. Otherwise we'll just say SVS PB2 Ultra and be done w/ it. John

Dude, you're having a run of bad luck!! I would look into a new receiver (I'm sure some new technology has come along since you bought the older one). Denons are great units, and I love my Marantz. Hang in there, it'll be worth it when all is said and done. John

Have you considered Outlaw? If you are having trouble auditioning anyway, they should be worth considering. Check them out at www.outlawaudio.com. John

Man that sucks!!! It might be worth the effort to return both of them to him and drive to Louisville and buy them from a dealer there. An hour drive or so might yield a significant piece of mind. John