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They are beautiful indeed, Rich, but I'm still waiting patiently for you to offer those Fortes ! Bob

MCP Rich is correct. I have a pair of WO Quartets in excellent condition. I really am trying to find a pair of fortes though. Shoot me an e-mail. Maybe we can work something out. berthypo@hotmail.com Thanks , Bob

Congrats Rich ! Now that you have the Khorns , I guess you won't be needing those Fortes any more ! I could find a home for them. Bob

Rich I'm not sure now if you even received my PM - but I have speakers that may interest you. My e-mail is berthypo@hotmail. com Thanks - Bob

Another PM

---------------- On 2/5/2005 1:09:58 PM Dylanl wrote: I am getting the feeling that the deal is not going to happen. I will make this same offer to anyone else also. My Immaculate RF7s for Khorns any model or finish as long as the are in working order. If the Khorns are scratched and beat up that is OK. ---------------- What finish are the RF 7's ? If you still have them , I may be interested in buying. email - berthypo@hotmail.com Bob

I have a pair of KG4's that I alternate with 3 vintage receivers - H/K 430 , Pioneer SX-1010, and a Marantz 2250. Honestly you can't go wrong with any of the above. A different sound with each one but they are all sweet. I think the KG4's are a great speaker. I also have a pair of Quartets and there are many times when I prefer the KG4's - depending on my mood and the type of music. Bob

---------------- On 12/8/2004 10:22:36 AM Frzninvt wrote: You could use the Mac 2105 to run your main speakers from the outputs on your Denon receiver to give them more punch and better dynamics. You will notice a significant improvement. ---------------- I am in the same position. I am running my HT setup from a Marantz SR 6300 and my 2 channel Forte with an H/K 430. Are you saying I could hook up the HK to the Marantz somehow and drive only the Fortes with the HK and the remainder of the gear with the Marantz ? How would I do that? Thanks for any help. Bob

Thanks for the replies. I think you are right. The sound when standing sounded almost like an echo or an effect created by a surround receiver. Anyway, it sounded nice at first but not really a true sound, so I will try experimenting with placement. Currently the speakers are about 2 feet from back wall and 8 feet apart with a huge wall unit entertainment center in between so there is not a lot of horizontal options but I can try to put them on risers and see what happens. I know when I tried that before with the Marantz it seemed as if I lost too much on the low end but I will give it a shot. Thanks.

Well, I finally got my hands on an H/K 430 thru e-pay. Not the prettiest cosmetically but fully functional. So I got hooked up to my KG4's, put on a CD and sat down in "the chair " for some initial critical listening. What a shock !!! After using a Marantz 2250 for the last 2 months (very smooth)- I could not believe the improvement in the low end and the overall soundstage. Listened to a couple tunes and then stood up to put on another CD and WOW ! As good as the H/K sounded from my seat, it was absolutely amazing when I stood up and listened. Now how do I get that sound when I am sitting ? I tried moving the speakers closer to the wall, toeing them in, leaning them front and back but could never get that ultimate sound until I stood up. Any suggestions ? Other than standing or sitting in a high chair ? Overall just an awesome little receiver. You guys were right AGAIN !

I just got the itch for some new speakers. I got my hands on a H/K 430 and I'd like to hear what all the fuss is about. I am looking to buy a pair of Fortes in the PA/NJ/DEL area. I can pick them up.Thanks in advance for any help.

I found some Fortes within driving distance. I am picking them up this weekend. Now which amp to use ? With my KG4's , I am very happy with the sound of a Pioneer sx-1010 and Marantz 2250. I guess the concensus here is to go with the HK430 - I don't have my hands on one of those yet. Any other SS suggestions ?

Now that I have decided to stick with the Heritage line - I'm looking for a pair of Fortes or Cornwalls anywhere within 3 -4 hours of Reading Pa. E-pay just doesn't seem to cut it IMHO. Any help would be appreciated .

Thanks for all the input. Let me clarify by saying that I love my KG4's and have no intention of parting with them. I guess I am just wondering how much of an improvement I could expect with the move to Forte or Cornwall. As I said before I preferred the KG4's to the B&W DM604s3($1500)so maybe I should just stay with these. I think the Cornwalls may be a space and WAF issue but the Fortes certainly do intrigue me. Is there a marked difference between the I and II ? Thanks again for any help.

I presently own a pair of KG4's that I have been pairing with a number of vintage receivers - Pioneer sx-1250 and sx-1010 as well as a Marantz 2250 and a Yamaha rx-v870. I would like to upgrade to another speaker in the Heritage line but am not sure what to go with ( Heresy , Forte or Cornwall ) and what I should be paying for these. BTW I have A/B'd the KG4's with a $1500 B&W and was still happier with my Klipsch. I have settled on the Pioneer sx-1010 as my receiver of choice (for now!) Any suggestions would be appreciated.My room size is 13x25 if that is important. Thanks