Blackmesa, I've already asked this question but no one really answered my question, maybe you'd be able to help me out!... note that all the prices are canadian. The Klipsch RW-12 is retailing at 899$ over here. The guy at the store is willing to drop it to 750$, I told him I already have a RW-8 and he willing to give me 250$ for it, so the RW-12 would only cost 500$ CDN, which is , in my opinion, a good deal. Now, I could possibly get the HSU STF-3 for something around 750-800$. From what I've read, the SVS PB-12 ISB and the HSU STF-3 are pretty much the same! I'm pretty lost and I'm not sure whawt I should do.