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6 minutes ago, babadono said:
@richieb only way they're worth that much is you have to sell them...mine will probably go for a dollar two ninety eight at an estate(garage) sale after I'm gone.
That is the very sad truth.
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Where is the OP located?
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The Polk SDA's were a fun speaker, although they were much larger and over three times the cost.
All that was many years ago. For me it was a bit of nostalgia (when I was a student my advisor had the Polk Monitor 10's)
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I used them as an affordable center between a pair of K-Horns and between a pair of Cornwalls. They were a "summed center" for music. They are compact and can be quite useful.
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That is quite a tidy profit he is making. 1) sell them new, 2) buy them back used, 3) then resell them at near twice the original price.
They are a good speaker and I hope the next buyer enjoys them.
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So for the usual questions..... Let me give the answers and I will let you figure out what the question would have been.
1. Cash only (even if your Grandmother will vouch for you)
2. No trades (I have everything I need)
3. Shipping is probably not an option. I want you to hear and see these in person. You need to decide whether the minor blemishes are livable or fixable. Besides shipping would put these at a price point that does not make sense.
4. Check the eBay prices (currently $275-350). These are a deal ! (especially since all the drivers are in good working order)
If you are interested, then please PM me with the following 1) When and how you will audition them, 2) When and How you will pay for them, and 3) When and How you will get them from my house to their new home. I work from home so my schedule is flexible.
Thanks for looking,
-Tom
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Here are the blemishes
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The finish is a rosewood "vinyl veneer". The grilles are in good shape but there are some blemishes in the veneer (see photos). All in all they are in pretty good shape.
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These have been sold and will now have a new and loving home....
For sale is a pair of Polk Monitor 10A's .
As of aug 25th the CraigsList price was reduced from $275 down to $150
For forum members, i'll include an additional discount if the transaction is simple and quick
These are located in SE Connecticut. I am near the casinos and about 1 hour from Providence RI, New Haven CT, Hartford CT and within 2 hours of Boston MA and NYC.
The Polk Monitor 10A's were manufactured in the early - mid 1980s. They retailed for about $600 and were considered a very good value at that price point. They measure 16 wide x 28 tall x 11 deep and weigh a little over 50lbs. The stated response is 37Hz to 25 kHz (+/- 3 dB). Near a corner they get down to 22 Hz (so the specs claim). They are 8 Ohm and 89 dB efficiency. These are not candidates for small tube amps.
I find the sound to be smooth and refined. They do not have the "in the face" dynamics of a horn loaded speaker. Some may find them too laid back. For others, they may like the smooth presentation. There is ample bass. These, I believe, have the peerless tweeter. In addition to the tweeter are a pair of 6.5 inch cones. The bottom "driver" is a 9.5 inch passive radiator.
I have owned them for several years and used them as "Ambience Speakers" to augment my stereo listening (music). I ran frequency sweeps this morning and all drivers are working.
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So for the big questions..... Let me give the answers and I will let you figure out what the question would have been.
1. Cash only (even if your Grandmother will vouch for you)
2. No trades (I have everything I need)
3. Shipping is probably not an option. I want you to hear and see these in person. You need to decide whether the blemishes are livable or fixable. Besides shipping would put these at a price point that does not make sense.
4. Yes, these make an excellent center channel of a reasonable size (for either music or Home theater)
They weigh 44 lbs and measure 15.5 wide 21.3 tall and 13.3 deep
If you are interested, then please PM me with the following 1) When and how you will audition them, 2) When and How you will pay for them, and 3) When and How you will get them from my house to their new home. I work from home so my schedule is flexible.
Thanks for looking,
-Tom
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Okay now we are done with the history lesson about "model 1.5" cabinets. It was only meant as background and meant so folks will understand that the configuration of drivers is what actually came from the factory. It is not an invitation to chit chat about the different models of the Heresy. Please remember that this is a "Garage Sale" thread and respect this as a classified ad.
Let me show a series of photos that honestly show the cosmetic condition of the cabinets.
Immediately blow is the worst of the wear and tear. You are looking at the bottom of the cabinet (and mostly hidden by the slant riser). Yes, a section of the ply is missing. The four small screw holes hold the cabinet to the riser and prevent it from sliding back (the riser is slanted). Importantly, the holes are only about 1/8 inch deep. They do not penetrate to the inside of the cabinet.
BTW, in the photos the cabinet is loosely placed on the riser. Unfortunately I did not square it up prior to the photos. So things look askew. That is not what it will look like normally.
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Let's get back to our detective work and I will also mention the crossovers.
The crossovers are original, I simply replaced the capacitors with newer ones (Solen Polyprop) and then got a bit fancy and bypassed them (small cap in parallel) with some Dayton film/foils. This was helpful and seemed to provide a bit more energy to the highs. Wait, did I say that? ...... I meant to say that this mod "really opened up the sound and removed the veil and took it to the next level" (pick two of the three).
All drivers, horns and woofer are original. Everything works, I verified that this morning with some tone sweeps.
Let's see some photos of the inside.
First I need to outline some history. In the early 1980s, the Heresy was evolving from the original series (called the Heresy) to the next generation (called the Heresy 2). There was a transition period usually thought of as around 1983-1984 where cabinets came out with features from both (original and the 2) These are sometimes called "1.5" cabinets. Well, folks this transition actually began in 1982 and my cabinet demonstrates this.
Let's take a peek.
FIrst, we see that the tweeter (K-77M) and the Woofer (K-22) are like the original Heresy. However the Mid driver is not a K-55 rather it is a K-53K driver. The Horn seems to be the K-701. So the midrange is like the Heresy 2. It looks like it took them a while clear out the parts bin.
The humorous thing is the crossover. The board is labeled as the type E (used in the original Heresy and only having 2 caps). However, when I examined it (prior to replacing the caps) the crossover had been stuffed as a type E2 (three capacitors). They had updated the crossover, but used an "available" network board. Again, it seems whatever was in the parts bin. This cabinet is true to what was originally shipped and has a three capacitor E2 network (with refreshed caps).
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The grille frame and cloth are original. The picture in the original post shows the grille has some dirt (fixable) and some wear (not easily fixable). However there are no tears or snags. The badge looks fine but needs to be re-glued to the frame (I loosely put it there for the photo). In all fairness, the grille has a slight warp in it, but it is not a big deal and I never lost any sleep over it.
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First we have some detective work to perform. The cabinet is 40 years old and I have had it for about the last ten years. The Code ( "X" ) indicates it was made in 1982. The label shows that it is "HBR" which codes as: Heresy Birch Raw".
As can be seen at some point in its life it had a coat of stain applied and a slanted riser was fabricated. I was not involved and can't speak to the details, but these were typical modifications.
What can also be seen is that input binding posts were added. I did this and it was nothing special. Wait, I meant to say that this mod "really opened up the sound and removed the veil and took it to the next level" (pick two of the three).
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EDIT: 10/19/23: The Heresy was sold this morning to someone who will give it a good home.
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Re-Revised 10/15/23 : The Living Room needs to get painted etc, so how about PM'ing me. Remember the "when and how" in your offer. Thanks, -Tom
Price has been further reduced. It is now available for $100
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I have a single Heresy Cabinet for sale in SE Connecticut. I am near the casinos and about 1 hour from Providence RI, New Haven CT, Hartford CT and within 2 hours of Boston MA and NYC.
The price is now reduced to $125 (Aug 27th). Note: as of Oct 15th, 2023 the price is now reduced to $100.
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I have a single Heresy that I will soon be putting up for sale.
Looks a bit rough but sounds fine. I am located in Southern New England and it will probably meet your price point
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Guys, We all love reminiscing about prices from the old days and I am no different.
However, this thread is about the arrival of the new version of the Klipsch Jubilees (possibly the first pair actually shipped to a customer). The OP has had the patience of a saint waiting for these and all of us want to vicariously share in his excitement and joy.
This is my long-winded way of suggesting that we get this thread back on track and learn more about the reveal and first impressions.
-Tom
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Can we all agree that they are not Klipsch Palladiums and that they are not worth $3K ?
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Congratulations!
This is an exciting time.
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6 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
Bullshit. It needed more back chamber air volume to work. I'm not putting words into Roy's mouth. You could have fine tuned to your hearts content. I tried that, with 3 different passive radiators and it only "wiggled the curve" about 1/2 db at most and not necessarily in a positive way. The original Jubilee was a very good short horn that only expanded in one plane (like a LaScala). It behaved like a LaScala out of corners and more like a lower distortion Khorn in Corners by way of extending the effective horn length. Roy had talked about adding a "V" in front to bring the 2 mouths closer together and adding length. Not sure if he ever did though. Physics is Physics regardless.
Well Claude I am sorry your tinkering did not work out. Apparently, Roy's efforts did.
With your profanity I assume you feel it is important to have the last word. Let me make it easy for you. I declare that you are brilliant and I am completely wrong. Wait maybe that is not enough. Okay, I am also a blithering idiot.
I hope you feel better now and I can go back and sit in the corner and drool into my shoes
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I think you are putting words into Roy's mouth.
Roy did mention a prototype where the bass bin had a drone feeding into the horn portion (along with the woofers). This was back in 2000 approximately. It has been awhile, but I believe the synopsis was that 1) greater low frequency extension and 2) greater efficiency (greater efficiency translated to lower distortion). The take home message, IIRC, was that the drone did provide an improvement. Sounds worth it to me! I believe PWK was aware of this approach and was positive about it. However, for some reason, it still needed more fine-tuning. Events changed and the project (in that form) was put on the shelf. This is what I was told. My memory is a bit shaky and I am not willing to speculate about the specifics of Roy's thinking.
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58 minutes ago, ClaudeJ1 said:
I already tried to put a passive in a jube-like clone that one of their pro dealers had me try to optimize, using a Golden Jubilee as a reference. There's not enough AIR Volume in the back chamber to make a passive work in that Horn. Waste of time, as I'm guessing Roy already tried and gave up on it too, and came up with the "75" version instead, where he basically put a Cornwall like volume inside that horn to make it work down low.
Claude, You make it sound like the (underground) Jubilee was a failure. It was not. It is a very good speaker. Many of us, myself included, were never concerned about whether the balancing network was active or passive. In fact Roy had developed some passive networks for the Jubilee. I don't know that many folks used them.
As far as employing a drone to vent the speaker, I recall that Roy stated there was still work to be done on that. Several of us were by the asked by the vendor to contribute to that effort. I did not join in since a modification of a Klipsch model will probably never see the light of day anyway. Quite frankly if Roy said it was a tricky thing to accomplish, then who am I to disagree? Roy is smarter than I am.
Hmmmm, Whatever happened to that vendor anyway?
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The Jubilee are in the house!
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Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy !!!!
There is always a funny grin that we get when listening to astounding speakers. No, you can't wipe it off. You will have to live with it.
Congratulations