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No, 2.5 seconds fron 0-60 is a silly statement, even for a leigerfelter twin turbo. Simply outrageous. Read my earlier post.

Thank you blackmesa for the clarification, yes he has the one with the cd changer. The price is OUTRAGEOUS indeed!

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvettez06/ Yes the next model is going to be called the corvette Z06 nickoltl.

"A rought estimate on the 0-60 is right around 2.5sec" BS!!! Thats the biggest pile of crap ive ever heard! Anyone who knows the basics understands that this is a LUDICROUS statement. Chrysler's ME Four-Twelve concept prototype 12 cylinder quad turbo 850 hp just breaks the 3 sec 0-60 mark. That stat about the vette is BS.

"Must be the conversion to 1's and O's that strips the life from it." What are you talking about? You do realise that the data on the CD is in "1's and 0's" to begin with right? all the player does is reads these and sends them directly to the DAC in you preamp/reciever through the digital out. There is no physical variation of these 1's and 0's. The exact same output of 1's and zeros will come out of a denon vs any other name. The advantage of digital out is that there is one less place for conversion from digital to analog. You must understand that conversions=errors. If you insist on using analog out, then PLEASE use strong ATH noise shaping to correct some of the many errors that you have caused in the music.

I think he C6 is GORGEOUS. I cant wait for the Z06 model. 500 raging horses....drool....

I must disagee with archangele and smb25. First, this bo$e system definately did NOT have pounding bass. My RF-7's feel like a hammerblow in the chest. The bose had a lack of all bass punch and definition. Second, to say that bose are louder sounds ridiculous. I dont know about any other of their systems, but this one was DROWNED by either my RF-7's or the paradigms. I dont know how loud you like it because my ears eardurms will crumble out before my RF-7's will...

I went to a local dealer lately to demo some different Klipsch speakers. Started with the RF-7's, and listened for awhile, then I asked the guy to turn on some used Klipschorns and he gave me this frown. Then he proceeded to tell me why Klipschorns sound like crap and are awful speakers. My mouth dropped open, I turned around, and found another employee to help me.

You may want to use screws and glue in the construction rather than nails and glue.

mmiles, no offense, but I can drive about 3 miles from my home and buy brand new RF-7's for about 1400 and get a great deal on a RC-7 for $150 along with it. 1200 is a shade too much for those I think. Anyways, even if you sold them for 1000-1150, I couldnt afford it for another couple months anyways, i dont know what I was thinking. I'm addicted to speakers...

mmiles what is your asking price, I may be interested.

Facinating, so say I was going to build a room, what would be ideal dimensions for say an some RF-7 fronts and RC-7 center an RSW-15 and various other surrounds. I know this should go in Architectural, but Im afraid noone will answer if I put it there.

Just out of curiosity, does the RSW-15 offer an equalizer? If not, what is an alternative to achieve a flatter response? Can you add an equalizer? Can/t the equalizer on the amp/reciever help?

AMEN, its good to hear of a fellow fan!! There are too few Dream Theater listeners out there. Their musicality is fantastic, skills nearly unmatched, and they still know how to rock! Can life get better?

Thank you dkp for some good constructive comments. I would like to address each to clarify exactly what we have done. 1)This is not the Bose cube system. My apologies for this misunderstanding. The System that my Bo$e friend challenged my klipsch and paradigm setup with, was one of the Bo$e acustic wave systems. It wasnt the clock radio version and im not sure what model it is, but it is about 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 feet in dimentions, ill try to get the model later, i dont see it anywhere on the system right off hand. His claim was that this box could compete with, and even outperform the pairs of floorstaners that my frined and I had. I was just going by his terms, Wave system vs. a pair of floorstanders. 2)No, honestly i have not considered the blindfold, but now that it has been brought to my attention, we will definately give it a try since all of the speakers are still set up in my HT room. Thanks for the suggestion. 3) Yes that is exactly how we did it, except without blindfolds. therefore, me and my paradigm friend were at odds with our respective systems, but it was pretty objective between us. The Bo$e, however, was right out. 4)you are right it is demo music, and there were several areas that we focused on in our listening. We first used Dream Theater- Scences From a Memory, because the drummer is phenomenal and this is good music to test bass "punch" if you will. The drummer uses dual kick bass drums and we all three agree that we like to feel that bass drum hit us in the chest. We are all avid rock listeners, so this was an important segment for us. You may say, "where is the subwoofer?" well paradigm guy and I left ours out because it would be unfair to the Bo$e guy, besides, RF-7s kick pretty good anyways. Also, we did a little bit of classical auditioning, I have a neat medley CD that we looked at for articulation and clarity. There were several other musics that we auditioned and we would take select portions such as guitar solos, drum solos, vocals and such and we would replay them each on each different system and compare. However, the only way to cut out opinion would be to use the blindfolds, which is what we are doing tonight! Thanks for the helpful comments!

Please allow me to clarify. I agree whole-heartedly that Bo$e sounds quite above average. In fact, I was actually impressed when he turned his system on. I thought it sounded great! However, when we made switch offs between his system and my RF-7s and my friends paradigms, there was really no competition. Bo$e makes good systems. They are of extremely poor value however, and they cannot compete with other types of systems. There is much better bang for your buck out there. If you like all in ones that you cant tweak, or if you want simplification and you have cash to spend, go with Bo$e, it doesnt sound half bad, but after hearing it against others, I am quite happy with RF-7s. Also, just out of curiosity would anyone with a Bo$e acustic wave system, or even better, would T3K mind posting a frequency response curve on her Bo$e system, I would like to compare.

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Just like to add that I think my promedia ultra 5.1 system on my computer sounds 10 times better than that bo$e garbage. Also it was like 1/4 as much money, so im my mind, noone that knows anything about real sound would go with that bo$e junk for 4 times as much money.

Well I was enjoying this for the most part untill T3K added his somewhat....enlightening......comments, I guess Im just a stupid cracker that is imagining that his RF-7 denon combo is WAY better than a bo$e system. Sure. I have found that in many cases, bo$e is preferred over a traditional setup, but my better half luckily understands and preferrs a real soundsystem, so when I asked her if she wanted a small system in the living room, she asked if it would sound like the system that I had been drooling over at the Klipsch dealer. Obviously, no. I think I got myself a good one. (Wife and System)

OK, some friends and I were having arguements over quality of Bo$e in comparison with others. So, the reasonable steps we took were to take some of our own respective stuff and to compare them all. So we got one guy's Bo$e acoustic wave system, my pair of RF-7's, a pair of paradigm monitor 11's. The Bo$e guy started all of this with his claim that his little 1.5 x 1.5 x 2 foot box put out bigger better quality sound than me or my frineds paradigms. So we put all of these in my HT room and hooked em up with each of our own recievers (mine is a Denon AVR-3805, paradigms were with Denon 2805, but also tried them with my 3805) and set them to each of our respective preferences and listened. Now, we each had our own opinions, mine being that the Paradigm and RF-7's sounded fantastic, but I just didnt like the Bo$e. Its just wasnt quite as powerful or commanding as the RF-7 or Paradigms. Of course this Bo$e guy was loving his Acoustic wave system and kept saying " Its smaller but sounds just as good as your big Floorstanders. I'm just looking for some technical ammo to back up my opinions when I see him next. I dunno, in my mind, there wassnt even competition, but I have nothing to argue with him about except with my opinions. Can anyone give me some technical dirt on Bo$e??