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btw, johnny also got into acting. still remember that movie he did w/ kirk douglass. gunfighters(?). great movie (at the time anyway). ------------------ My Home Systems Page

1st album i ever got, "hello, I'm Johnny Cash", when a 5-yr old. i use to entertain the family singing "san quentin" & "a boy named sue". johnny was a victim of society, i tell ya. these days mountain dew is stronger than those pep pills he was takin. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

aren't the summer olympics there in a few years? maybe i could qualify & get a free trip there. thanks max. please keep us posted. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

zan, i'm starting to question your hearing. you also clouldn't even hear a dif w/ biwiring. open your mind & be free. (j/k) ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 09-24-2002 at 12:11 PM

sure u can order them at 1-800-KLIPSCH & go to parts, but they should have been included w/ your rf-3. i got a set of spikes w/ my rf-3. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

phil, did for me. the spikes more isolate the cabinets from floor vibration & really tighten up the bass. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

is that kate or ashley? ------------------ My Home Systems Page

ken, no as long as you use good quality 75ohm video cables, no dif except the color coding imho. just make sure you connect the same colors together. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

tom, at my age now, if i shake my head too hard i'll pass out. remember back in '78 when i was a senior in HS we got to set up a stereo & spin tunes in the cafeteria for "crazy day". anybody remember BIC speaks? the local stereo shop loaned us a pair i drove w/ my kenwood kr9600 & garrard turntable. started out w/ "jesus is just all right" by the doobies & it was all trouble from there. it was a public school, but the uncool discipline vice-prin was more concerned about the volume than the lyrics in those days. those BIC had circuit-breakers & we tripped those quite a bit that day. skipped a whole day of classes sitting in the cafeteria. but they had points & skipping a day was worth -12 pts out of the 15 i still had to burn. nothing like beating the system while groovin. skipped another class later in that year to take care of the other 3. last year they used the point system. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

steven, i'd put the 2 subs in same spot & set crossovers & phase the same on each or where they sound best. only reason i'd do the crossover is because though yammy uses the idiotic 90hz fixed crossover i think they has sense enough to give you a contol that sends lfe to both fronts & sub (though i suspect what it really does is send low bass to both (not LFE)). anyway keep experimenting & tweaking to reach bass perfection. m00n, so you can tell a dif already? ------------------ My Home Systems Page

ears, yes please do. good luck w/ your back. my main back problems come from this girlfriend. lower back. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

zan, congrats. nothing like hosting a party & providing great tunes. as long as the party may run. i haven't heard of too many klipsch party memories on here. well, the topless girl dancing on top of the cornwall comes to mind, but i'll have to think of some good ones. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

pictures & links. forgeeddaabouit. - it takes forever to get these pages to load on my netscape & 1 mbps connection anyway. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

what? only about 1000 have asked how to hook up a ksw or sub in the last year & nobody cares? well finally find some solution here & looks like everybody has now got an adjustable lower than 80hz crossover in their processor. no thanks to the manufacturers of subs & receivers though. totally self-learned. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

its basically a trade-off between what works best for you w/ your ears & room & what doesn't work best for you. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

whoops, looks like only the ksw-15 is so equipped w/ a nonfiltered LFE input. the ball dropping continues at klipsch. looks like klipch is relying on the buyer beware in getting a processor w/ flexible bass mgmt for their bigger speaks & subs. they had the right idea w/ their ksw-15 anyway. so anybody tried this on a ksw-15? looks like to try this w/ an rsw you need to get an external crossover. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

17, what sub is it. you may want to read the recent threads i just started in the HT section & this pertaining to sub set-up. would be a good explanation on the dif between LFE & low bass too. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

from what i understand, they have 2 line inputs (L&R) & a seperate (nonfiltered) LFE input - at least i know the ksw-15 does. in addition to connecting your fronts to your fronts speaker terminals, why not run interconnects from the fronts/mains preouts to the L&R line inputs of sub? also connect the sub out to the LFE in of the sub w/ another interconnect. then set sub:yes, fronts:large & the bass control so that LFE only is sent from the receiver sub out. the LFE then bypasses the sub's crossover & doesn't get cut. & you can use the crossover on the sub to better blend the mains' preout low bass with the front speakers. anybody tried this w/ good results (or bad?)? ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 09-23-2002 at 07:19 PM

all you need is a low-cost 75 ohm video cable & 1 or 2 of those adapters. but yes. they should have a nonfiltered lfe input on the X-30 that sums to the mains preouts signals after they're summed & AFTER that's filtered by the X-30 crossover. of course the Y-adapter does the same thing. just shows these guys have no clue on the bass managers dilemma. sad. probably some other external crossovers out there that put a seperate LFE in (nonfiltered) on their box. ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 09-23-2002 at 07:07 PM

supposedly goes better in one direction. i wouldn't worry at all, for reasons above. its all preamp output signals. look at the ksw-15. it has 2 line inputs plus an LFE input. you can connect the mains L & R preouts from the preamp to it as well as run a connect from the sub preout to the lfe in. it takes the L & R signals, sums them together then runs them through the low pass crossover filter (like your x-30). then combines that w/ the nonfiltered LFE input & sends the sum to the amp. same thing you'd be doing. doesn't the X-30 have a manual that addresses the problem w/ LFE & what to do about it. if they're on the ball, would think they'd tell you to do the above. then again many companies are not on the ball yet these days when it comes to explaining bass mgmt. here's a pdf primer on LFE & low bass. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

m00n, don't worry, just rhetorical questions. just never thought of this before. & its all on paper for me. but think its good to go. & we don't need it because we have adjustable crossovers in our processors that allow down to 40-60hz for low bass filtering on the sub. (high pass too in my case ). ------------------ My Home Systems Page

pb, yea that's it! you may want to also split the denon sub out/lfe connection to both the sub's inputs. were're talking all preamp signals here. that is before they get amplified. so no real danger in trying. shouldn't be any ground loop problems either. if there are, float the ground on your sub's power plug w/ a 3-2 cheater plug, if you're not already. when you set LFE only on the denon, the sub is getting a totally dif signal than what its getting from the X-30 (low bass from the other channels). LFE is a totally seperate channel - the .1 in 5.1. many subs have line inputs & a seperate LFE input, like the ksw-15. but all you're doing is combining the low bass & LFE mono signals into one before its amplified. should be no different than what a prepro in the receiver does when it put out both low bass & LFE simultaneuosly to the sub out (such as when you set the denon to fronts+LFE). just takes another interconnect & adapters to try. should work fine. think the only dif is you'll then get a full dose of LFE. & that's a good thing. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

alex, really a matter of taste you'd have to hear, but i lean toward the corns. haven't heard the rf-7 at my own place though. have the rf-3 & have listened a lot to rf-7 at the shop. the rf-7 are great sounding speaks. the 3-way cornwall have more the sound i prefer. i'm using rf-3 for the stereo room & they also sound great though not as full in the midrange. i have the b&k ref 30 & 7270 amp. from what i've heard the 307 really has the same pre/pro section as the ref 30. just a smaller torrid transformer for ampage, though still quite adequate for klipsch. recommend giving the b&k a demo w/ klipsch. to my ears, the b&k & klipsch go together best within that price category & even compared to much higher priced components imho. ------------------ My Home Systems Page

pb, looks to me like the x-30 would work. -connect the denon fronts preouts to the X-30 line ins. -it has a sub output to run to sub. -just don't run the line level high pass outputs back into the denon. -connect the front speaks to the denon fronts terminals -also run an interconnect from the denon sub-out directly to the sub (need y-adapters) -set sub:yes, fronts:large & all others small, & use "LFE only" for bass control -switch out the crossover on the sub or turn it all the way up to like 120hz or highest. then the x-30 controls only the low bass to the sub. the sub still gets the full LFE because you're sending only LFE to the denon sub out & its bypassing the X-30. am i missing something? ------------------ My Home Systems Page

pb, sorry. forgot that was paradigm. http://www.paradigm.ca/Website/SiteParadigmProduct/ParadigmModels/HighPassSWControlUnits/ControlUnit_Specs.htm anyway, why not connect your fronts to the denon speaker posts, & use the X-30 connected from both denon front preouts only as the low pass to the sub L&R line inputs? then as above. that's what i was assuming could be done. but maybe that's backwards since it looks like the x-30 is meant to be run back into the denon. but since the denon doesn't have power inputs, where do you run it back into? the tape monitor jacks? if the x-30 doesn't work, what one needs is an external low pass crossover to get my above idea to work. one w/ L & R line inputs that sums the signal to one line output to sub & has a low pass crossover. sort of like the outlaw icbm. except this way you don't need a seperate power amp for it to go between, nor only putting that between a dvdp & receiver & only being able to use it for that. ------------------ My Home Systems Page