GregB

Dean - Thank you for your reply. I changed speaker wire from the Home Depot solid core to Radio Shack 16ga zip cord and stripped the end of the wire to run through both sets to binding posts. Helped get rid of some of the oddness I was hearing up top which I now attribute to the supplied link thingies. I think they roll off the treble in a way that can make some sounds seem unatural. At any rate, the speakers are not *horribly* messy up top - just too brutal and possibly accentuating faults that are there. This does make them a tad difficult to live with in a domestic setup with less-than-stellar (TV signal, iPod, etc.) sources. Others - were your comments about the RF-7's or the Heresy IIIs? - Greg <-who thinks the Heresy IIIs are *almost* perfect - just gotta smooth out the top a bit

Dean - Do you know if the same or a similar mod can help Heresy III's? - GregB

I dug through by Bag of Wire looking for some alternative wire and no luck. Only Kimber, which I tried before and was the brightest/edgiest of the cables I had at the time. Too capacitive, I think. Naim's NACA5 worked best - its a higher inductance wire. Its gone though, included as part of the deal when I sold the Heresy's predecessors. Would the solid core Home Depot wire possibly cause poor treble quality? Also, can someone explain what is meant by an "impedence mismatch" and how it affects the sound? And finally - I would LOVE to hear from any Klipsch owners in my area. I live in Northern Virginia in the Oakton/Vienna area. I would love to hear someone else's Kilpsch installation and/or have someone experienced with Klipsch come hear mine. - GregB

Update on the splashy trebble situation (its not just sibilance)... I did as suggested and switched back from biwiring to standard wiring with the wires running to the lower posts (bass) and using the supplied jumper thingies. The wires are still Home Depot 12 or 14 guage solid core. The Good is the speakers are now listenable without the tissue paper :-) But...the highs are just not clean and *may* even have some sort of phase problem. Tinkley bells for instance (much of that being played now as its XMas season) just lack the naturalness they have with other speakers. They sound 'off' somehow. I am wondering if there is somthing amiss either in the crossover design or in my crossovers in particular that is messing up the highs. Reading other posts on the forum, Rotel amps seem an OK match so I'm not running to replace my amp (1062) at this point. I was reading about a speaker manufactured by another company. The owner/lead designer came on their forum and admitted a mistake was made when attempting a last-minute upgrade to one of the crossover parts (a cap, I believe). He thought he could just drop in the higher spec cap and all would be well but the change created unanticipated phase problems that resulted in odd peaks and valleys that would rip your ears off!!! They offered to anyone who had speakers in such-and-such a serial no. range to send them back for a free fix. Thoughts? - GregB

I remember my Naim speakers (Allaes) took over 4 months to fully run in and sound clean up top. I had the tissue over the ScanSpeak tweeters in those for 5 months! So...I will give the Heresy's 4+ months and reevaluate. They are OK with 2 layers of tissue, so we are enjoying them without pain at the moment. I do know that the highs are not clean and just masking nasty stuff is not where I would like to be, long term. I remember the Totem speakers (Staffs) sounded amazingly clean and seemed to go on for ever up top, even with tele as source. Hard to shake that once you have heard it. Its also hard to shake the great dynamics of the Heresy's once heard, hence I have a real problem here! - GregB

Its not just sibilance - the highs are just not as clean as I'm used to from other speakers (Naim, ProAc, Totem, Meadowlark, B&W) in nearly the same setup. The Rotel amp is fairly new and has not been used with all of the aforementioned speakers, but has shown no signs of not being clean up top. It is both speakers - and with the grilles off and me close, I can hear the tweeter 'spitting' at me and not just with vocals. I am currently using the 'tissue paper fix' - two layers, and it makes them listenable and, of course, downright enjoyable. I love the dynamics and, for the price, the bass is quite good too. I'm not a believer in the "its in the recording" theory. Perhaps with some recordings yes - but it shouldn't be *annoying* and with many recordings and every source. Tele is quite raspy when it has never been before. - GregB

Well, I'm past the two month mark with my new Heresy III's and they are sibilant and just not clean up top. Anyone else experience this? What can be done? Pertnering equipment is a Rotel integrated amp (fairly new, reputed to be clean) with a Rotel CD player, Mistubishi TV, and iPod as sources. I have tried a few different speaker wires that I have and am currently running 12 gauge solid core from Home Depot biwired. Any help greatly appreciated. I really like what else the speakers do, but if the sibilance/messy trebble persists, the Heresy's will have to go. - GregB

Yea, I'm surprised so *little* foam would make such a difference. Do tell as perhaps my room is closer to Nirvana than I realize! - GregB

Jim - I suspect many of us have heard them outside the home at movie theatres and never even known! My Heresys have a very 'theater' sound. - GregB

GRB - I just bought a pair of Heresy III's, but would love to hear your Cornwalls! I live in Northern VA and so would gladly make the trip to your place, if you didn't mind. I have a year trade up on the Heresy's and know my dealer would be thrilled if I came in and spent the extra dosh on the Cornwalls. We are doing very well with the Heresy III's mind you, but could stretch to the Cornwalls if they are truely full range and 'nirvana' compared to the Heresys. My personal email is gobeatty@yahoo.com if you would rather. - GregB

Thanx for the pic - I have new Heresy III's (and imagine my sons fighting over them years hence) and now I have a good idea what they look like on the inside :-) - GregB

"Just a little smaller sound then it's 3 bigger brothers , still can't belive the sound out of that small cabinet." Yes - I accept that - the littleset brother isn't quite the same as the biggest broher...but is from the same, wonderful, family :-) - GregB

Regarding run-in: And what would he(PWK) say...I wonder... - GregB "Bull&hit!" Hum...I hope not. The upper mids and treble have trouble when things get busy up top. I'm hoping this clears up when the titanium drivers break in. - GregB

Danny - You mention tennis balls underneath. Is this just to raise the front so the tweeters point up? Would you suggest this in addition to the riser base that came with my III's? - GregB

Yikes!!! Its the little ones for now because I have two little ones!!! A 3 1/2 year old and a 1 year old. The Heresys just tuck away in the corners and do their biz. The Redskins game last night, even though ESPN's audio sucks pond water (at least via our cable provider), was mucho more dramatic that football has been though previous speakers. - GregB

One of the best-sounding pieces of kit I ever owned was a 120WPC tube receiver from Harmon-Kardon. You could fry eggs on it, and I could barely lift it, but dang it sounded great. I sold it and got Harmon Kardon solid state separates. BIG downgrade! - GregB

Yea, I do believe in the run in stuff, esp where speakers are concerned. And yes - out of phase in mono and facing the speakers is all about canceling the full-range cacaphony we plan to play rather loudly for hours on end! And what would he say...I wonder... While I have had severl pairs of new speakers to run in during the past few years, I am NOT a member of the Speaker of the Month club! I had B&W's for over 15 years and regret letting them go. All other speakers since have been fairly short lived. I suspect the Heresy's are here for a while unless the bug bites to upgrade to the Bigger Boys. - GregB

Yea...Rotel is fuller sounding than mucho other solid state gear I've heard so I think I will be alright. Someday I will go back to a vintage tube setup and that will likely raise the game. All in good time. And if your worried about not having time (Don't buy green bannanas) then f%@* it and get what you want! - GregB

Yep!!! Hersey's are da bomb, especially for their size :-) And thank you for the note about experimenting with 12" stands, 4" stands, and floor placement. I'll let 'em run in and try 4" stands if necessary. - GregB

No sub - driving them with a Rotel integrated amp - the 1062 - won lots of awards so it must be good :::: I'm hoping the thickness is just the Resonance of The Day for the woofer as the surround loosens up during run in. Other speakers I've run in start out with no bass, then you get bass with a big hump and nothing below the hump, and then the hump moves to lower and lower frequencies until it eventually goes away completely. And tweeters can take FOREVER to clean up with the tweeter output dropping during the run in. If the HIII's follow this pattern, I'm expecting them to be bang on perfect once fully run in. Just hoping someone else would confirm this :-) I also don't have the luxury of doing a speed burn in where once speaker is wired out of phase and the two speakers are placed face-to-face and run full range for hours. With a (fabulous) wife and two little kids, I'm gonna have to wait. - GregB

The Heresy's definitely sounded best right out of the box. Just wondering what to expect :-) If they still sound 'thick' after a week or so I will see if I can raise them a smidge off the floor. A big 'plus' for me is the speakers are toddler friendly :-) But standmounting really not practical. - GregB

They do sound rather good ;-) I've been fortunate to own several pairs of new speakers over the years and have yet to hear a pair that didn't change substantially over time. My last new pair (Naim Allaes) took 4+ months to run in! I'm concerned that the horn loading of the titanium tweeter and mid driver may mean it takes *even longer* to run in since the drivers move less than conventional speakers to produce the same output. Then there are the 12" bass drivers... Now, the highs are OK but get splashy when there is alot of HF information. The bass is good but the speaker sounds "thick" - male vocals sound "chesty". I'm hoping both of these will change for the better over time, and was hoping for some confirmation from other Klipsch owners :-) - GregB

This is my first post here :-) Just brought a new pair of Heresy III's home yesterday. What can I expect as they "break in"? How long does break in take? - GregB