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Mike....my last comment was very sarcastic. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

O.K. here we go. I brought the new Arcam 72t home early yesterday afternoon, on loan. I've had approximately six hours of listening since then. Everything in my system stayed the same including all cables I just substituted the Arcam for the Adcom. I won't bore you with all the specific details of each C.D. I tested, I'll just give some overall impressions. First of all anyone who says most CD players sound the same and that a laser is a laser are just nuts. My initial reaction, after 30 minutes of listening was "when do I get my Adcom back." What was this I was hearing. The vocals presented themselves too far back in the soundstage, the bass was more extended but somehow loose, and the vocals seemed to be coming from a single thin wall, not layered at all. Now there was positives, first off was the incredible amounts of detail this player retrieved. I heard information that I've never heard before on many cd's. The vocals, while sometimes seeming to deep in the soundstage, were dead center on every cd. It was remarkable. There was no hint what so ever of the vocals emanating from the speakers, this took some getting used to but after awhile really impressed me. And finally the highs seemed slightly less harsh than the Adcoms at high volumes. Now todays listening was quite different. The player continued to impress me with its fine detail and pin point precision on the vocals. But today I also realized how quick and dynamic this player is, especially the high end frequencys. Cymballs and drums just hit with a snap. One last positive was the Arcams ability to create very impressive decay in the music, much better than the Adcoms. I really enjoyed that quality as it really created a mood between the music and me. Now, the problem. The Arcam has lower extended low frequencies no doubt about it, however this just kills the bass. I know that doesn't make sense but please read on. I noticed right away that I had objects on walls etc. that were vibrating with lower volumes or that were vibrating that have never done so before. Now I like bass extension but here is the problem, It seems like I have no punch/authority with my bass now. I don't know if my amp is not matching up right or having a hard time with this or what, but I just don't like the overall bass quality listening to the Arcam opposed to the Adcom. When I upgraded interconnects I noticed much better bass, same deal when I replaced my old Adcom pre/tuner with the Macintosh, but now that I throw a 800.00 cd player in I somehow ruined that nice tight, authoritive bass I grew accustomed to. Overall I really like the 72 and think that it would be a nice player in my system, however I just have to figure out this bass problem. One last thing I realized during these past couple days, the Adcom, I don't know if its the dual 20 bit burr-brown converters or what, is one heck of a player for it's price. Will I upgrade to the 72, Don't know, but I do like many of it's qualities. Why can't they make a perfect cd player for $800.00 bucks???????????? ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

I suggest Shawn Hannity!!! ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Just took my Adcom in to get it fixed. Figured regardless of if I upgrade or not it would be nice to have it working so I can sell it. Doesn't sound like it's going to cost much more than $100.00 so it's worth it. Also, Mobile, the store that I took the Adcom to loaned me out a new Arcam cd 72 with text. I will let you know how this works out in my system. They did have one used Arcam 7se but I really like the looks of the new Diva series. Well, I have some comparing to do..later.......... ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

We need some rain! ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

How does one become "Geologically in the Middle"? I predict another year or so of real volatile markets with all the corporate corruption and restructuring going on, however I do believe in the long run this will pay off. Obviously this has been going on for years and is just now starting to expose its ugly head. These companies are going to start falling like dominoes, were just going to have to ride it out. And Lne, who would you suggest to instantly take us out of this mess? Martha Stewart maybe............ ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Mobile....To tell you the truth I'm somewhat scared of the original planet, ecspecially since I would be buying used. I have read about some problems with the suspect lid mechanism, and what some people would call a cheap power button. I just don't think I could take a chance buying a used planet with no warranty. I'm going to audition the Arcams sometime this weekend and will let you know what I find. Thanks for your responses. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Not sure what I'm going to do yet (fix my Adcom/or buy a new player) anyway my audio store really loves the Arcam 72 in my price range. Has anyone heard this player or the 62. Thanks......... ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Is your planet the original or 2000? There's a vast gap in the prices of some of these used planets, just wondering if the 2000 is much of an improvement over the original. Jnorv...I'd be looking for a player that makes the regular c.d. sound best. The Adcom was around $725.00 dollars with a Burr-Brown 20 bit D/A converter, so I highly doubt the cheaper SACD players would be any sort of upgrade. Mobile...have you had a chance to listen to the new Music Hall player? I think it's the 25, it retails for around six hundred. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

My twelve year old daughter decided to put six c.d.s in my Adcom 5 disc player. She inserted the sixth one into the C.D. playing mechanism. I opened it up and took out all the discs and nothing seems to be broke. It rotates but does not read any discs. It looks to me that the laser platform is not being lifted up into place because the teeth are not matching up. Does anyone have any idea what type of cost were talking here? There is a place locally that I would trust to do it, but if were talking $250.00 dollars here it might mean my ticket to a used Rega Planet. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless> This message has been edited by rowooo on 07-05-2002 at 01:10 PM

New or used, how much do you want to spend, Two channel or home theater or both, remote? ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Edster......how do the vibrapods compare to the rollers? ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Mobile....there you go again bashing my Adcom gear and calling me a Loon! Ha,Ha...I have the Music Link plus interconnects, but I'm not using Transparent speaker wire. I tried two levels of Transparent speaker wire and I just couldn't justify the cost. I think I had the MusicWave Plus wires and the only difference I heard was a slight decrease in background noise, a blacker background. They also seemed to somehow create an enhanced(False) bass response. It just didn't sound right. But the interconnects are just awesome. Best upgrade I've made. As to the Heritage speakers.....I'm not saying I'm ready to change speakers, as I love my 2 way Epics, I just would like to hear some of these different models. Looks like I'll have to move down to Florida. As fast as Mike is changing speakers I would get a chance to listen to the whole Klipsch line in just under a year or so. Just joking Mike...Can't wait to hear your findings on your new LaScalas when there all done and set up. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

I need to hear some Belles, LaScalas, or Cornwalls. I'm totally happy with my system now I just am dying to hear some of these heritage models. So if anyone out there lives near Omaha or Lincoln please let me know, so I can hear for myself what all this fuss is about. Sometimes I think I'm the only guy from Nebraska on this board. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Deang...Is that a Paridigm audio rack from a few years back? It looks identical to the one I used to use. Do the four shelves come out? I liked the rack but needed an extra shelf for my turntable so I had to buy a whole new rack since the discontinued that model. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Adcom GFP-565 is a great unit which can be had for fairly cheap. No remote though. Are you looking for a pre/tuner, just a pre, two-channel, surround, ???? ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

cip4465.....don't worry about it. More is better, and you want you amplifier to have authority over your speakers. Once you start hearing distortion, you know your at the speakers or amplifiers limit and you need to turn the volume down. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

HDBRbuilder....you might just want to try some good headphones. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

gloria...welcome to the forum...I've owned quite a few Adcom components over the years and have had nothing but good luck with them. I'm currently using the 5500 amp which is around 7 years old but they still make it. I really enjoy the Adcom. It's extremely quick, detailed, and has great low end extension. It does however get HOT. I would suggest not stacking anything on top of your new amp and provided good ventilation. Although yours is an older model I'm pretty sure you'll find out it will get hot. Overall I think you'll be impressed, let us know how it goes. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Interconnect cables, no doubt, make a much greater improvement in systems than speaker wire. Upgrading to Transparent cables in my system probably made the biggest difference out of anything I've done. I have tried (on loan) some Transparent speaker wire that ran around 850.00 bucks an 8' pair. They seemed to lower--blacken the back ground a little and I even a/b with a Tracy Chapman C.D. and it was noticable on a couple tracks. As for the overall sound I really couldn't tell the difference compared to my regular cable which is under 80.00 bucks a pair.. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

And it's cheaper too! ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Just the thought of Metallica on LaScalas gives me a headache... ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

Don't know if this will interest anyone but I just saw that some guy had Cornwall II's on Audiogon. They sound like there in pretty crappy shape but he only wanted 250.00 or best offer. Might be a good restore project. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

I've been thinking about putting my MMF-5 on either a 3/8 or 1/2 MDF or glass platform with 4-5 vibrapods or some damping material underneath. I would like to stick with some thick glass since cosmetically it would look nice with my Mac preamp and the glass platter on the table. Which would be better for damping vibrations? I'm thinking the MDF but if I had devices underneath anyway it might not matter much. Anyone do anything like this? Thanks ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>

That should look nice, you'll have to post some pics when your done with the wood work. ------------------ 2 Channel System: Klipsch Epic CF-2s McIntosh C-15 Preamplifier Adcom GFA 5500 Amplifier Music Hall MMF-5 Table Adcom GCD 700 CD Adcom ACE-515 AC Enhancer Transparent Audio Cabless>