jason str
-
Posts
5463 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
12
Content Type
Forums
Events
Gallery
Posts posted by jason str
-
-
Well, there is no replacing the Lascala.
The RF-7 comes close.
Post pics of your system.
Not even close, sorry.
-
Great builds people! I purchased from the plans from Bill F. and will be building four Tuba HT horn subs. Time to murder some commercial internet direct subs. LOL
A properly designed horn sub will plant an axe in the sealed and ported subs sold in stores and online.A massive bloody axe.
I ordered my four Dayton DVC 15's today. LOL it will be bloody.Be sure to post pictures!
4 of these should raise the roof, literally, or destroy it.
You better have one big space to drive 4 of these things, good luck with the build.
-
The amp has a two year warranty, try to find the receipt and send it in before the warranty expires.
The shop where you purchased the product may be able to help if you still cannot locate the receipt.
-
Sorry, did not catch the no HDMI on the television, disregard the link then.
Have a look around Parts express, they may have something that may work for you.
-
-
Bump it up
-
You've posted nothing to the contrary. You have the burden of proof to back your statement. I've not seen it.
Carl, please read the pdf link i posted right on this page.
Chris, well put, distortion is distortion, i just thought it was normal for woofers to sound the way they do until just recently. Now having a complete horn loaded system it has changed the way i hear music, all for the better. Since my completion of the horn loaded subwoofer paired to the LaScala's my Chorus II's just sit idle, what a shame huh ?
The music now just flows from my speakers and creates a complete soundstage without missing a beat, i can hear where every band member is playing instead of just hearing the good familiar sound, not that the subwoofer made all this difference but from other previous speakers owned too, nothing ever sounded just right.
Never will i go back now that im spoiled with horns, the way it was meant to be heard.
-
As much as i love Klipsch products i would steer clear from that choice, move up the Klipschladder or look for something completely different.
Knowing what main speakers you are running with your Onkyo may get more help.
-
Its gonna be a hard sell around these parts but good luck.
Too bad this did not come up last year, i could have used those cabinets to replace my Altec Valencia A series that were really beat up though i would have offered cash my Klipsch are not for sale. [
] -
My understanding is the design of the direct radiating woofer does not simply create more distortion
This statement was taken out of context.
Every statement i ever read states by horn loading a driver the distortion is reduced and SPL goes up, unless you can show me otherwise i don't see how you can argue different.
Please prove me wrong.
Actually it wasn't. You made a statement that a direct radiating subwoofer design created distortion. Period. I never argued the merits of horn loading or it's benefits. This was never a discussion about distortion vs SPL in horn loading vs conventional direct radiating subwoofers. At least not from my end.
No period, that is a comma and you keep jumbling my words around. Lets keep it civil here shall we.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/context
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/context'> -
Looks like the word is getting around. [
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1236870] -
Yep we partied all night.
-
Not that I can tell-there are just +/- for L/R for the two sets of main speakers. No pre out however, there are R/L (red/white) lines out for tape and video recording. Would those work to providde a signal to the sub?
No
Does your subwoofer amp have high level inputs ?
-
After the woofers are broken in post your thoughts about Bob's cast frame woofers if you don't mind, another opinion is always welcome.
I too have been thinking about starting some veneer jobs around the house just for some practice so when the need to veneer a nice set of speakers it won't be too fugly looking.
Where did you end up getting your sheet stock ? When i was looking around the price varied so much it was hard to make an educated decision on what to buy.
-
Have you noticed any difference in sound from the unmatched woofers ?
By the way, very nice looking speaker.
-
Is there any preouts for the main speakers or just for rear & center ?
If you have preouts for the main use those.
-
Here is a good article with some numbers.
-
My understanding is the design of the direct radiating woofer does not simply create more distortion
This statement was taken out of context.
Every statement i ever read states by horn loading a driver the distortion is reduced and SPL goes up, unless you can show me otherwise i don't see how you can argue different.
Please prove me wrong.
-
"Anything that moves, distorts" Roy D.My understanding is the design of the direct radiating woofer does not simply create more distortion, the driver itself produces the same distortion at the source, the distortion is simply diminished in the geometry of the horn path.
The less that the drivers have to move to produce the required SPLs, the less distortion there will be - and this was an empirical observation by PWK.
Truly horn-loaded drivers move much less than direct radiators to produce the same SPLs.
If this statement is in fact true it makes sense, while my thinking may be off kilter my previous statement is at least correct.
Time to find more information on the subject. [8-|]
-
Perviously my subwoofer was jammed into the wall with less than 4" between the horn mouth and the wall due to space restrictions but this weekend the Tuba HT was unleashed in the living room loaded into a corner with my LaScala's and my Adcom for power and what a difference it makes, before there was plenty of lows, tight, punchy, clean and airy as usual but WOW loading this properly 18" back and a foot or so off the wall just woke this thing up in terms of SPL, the sound quality remained the same but i did not realise what this design is really capable of.
I gave it my all, the Adcom GFA 5500 was pushing like never before, i gave the LaScala's the power i used to juice up the Chorus II's with and they handled it with open arms, the Tuba HT needed to be dialed down just a bit to keep every dam thing in the house from rattling and the frequency needed to be dialed down just a bit to keep the CD playing steady but it truly was a great night on the couch with friends.
We played a wide variety of rock & roll from old to new and never really was able to push the subwoofer to its limits but everybody got a good taste of what they wanted to hear.
Time to put the gear back in the bedroom before everybody gets back from vacation.
-
I have that CD in excellent condition that I can sell you. But then it's technically an online sell.
Beside, it's the only copy I have.
PM'd
No reply, still searching.
-
Is this not one of the reasons klipsch uses horn loaded drivers in many of the designs ? Correct me if im wrong but this was my understanding.
My understanding was that a horn will couple the drivers output to the air better than a direct radiating driver, Low power amps were the norm at that time PWK started designing speakers, so he used horn loading as a method to give more volume per watt from his speakers. I don't dispute that. Greater output with reduced distortion can be achieved by other methods like multiple drivers, but that's more expensive. I simply questioned your statement that a direct radiating subwoofer inherently introduces "high distortion levels". Any speaker or sub can introduce high distortion levels when pushed past it's thermal or mechanical limits, horn loaded or conventional. I'll ask one last time, why does a direct radiating subwoofer, by design, create high distortion levels, as you stated?
My understanding is the design of the direct radiating woofer does not simply create more distortion, the driver itself produces the same distortion at the source, the distortion is simply diminished in the geometry of the horn path.
-
Don't knock it till you try it.
I'm not knocking your sub. I don't disparage anyone's equipment. I took issue with your statement that the direct radiating sub design is inherently distorted. I haven't read anything to back up your claim yet. I'm certainly open to the possibility of my being wrong, it wouldn't be the first time. I enjoy learning about subwoofer theory. When someone makes a statement such as yours, I'd enjoy reading the facts behind the statement.
Lots of information available all over the internet on horn loaded drivers and the facts, most if not all state that horn loading reduces distortion.
Is this not one of the reasons klipsch uses horn loaded drivers in many of the designs ? Correct me if im wrong but this was my understanding.
-
All i have to go on is other peoples testing with the design that is in plain sight on Bills web page, i welcome any testing for nay sayers and also welcome anybody to come by and hear with their own ears as i can plainly hear the difference in sound from any other subwoofer i have heard in my years, all for the better.
My subwoofer is not for sale because i don't like it, its for sale because i liked the sound so much i plan to build some of the other designs featured on the pages. Don't knock it till you try it.
I ordered my four Dayton DVC 15's today. LOL it will be bloody.
] 
]
Queen The game
in General Klipsch Info
Posted
I agree, love the bass guitar on that track.