Ok.
Went thru the menu on the reciever , Pioneer VSX-D509S, and in the sub menu you could have ON OFF or PLUS, I put it on PLUS and I have signal now. Not as good as in the other system I have with a Yamaha reciever and the same sub. I will just have to play with it I guess. that is the fun part though.
Thanks for the input guys.
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