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I have a Marantz sr7002. All I can say is that it brought my system to life like never before. I've driven Klipsch with Sony, Pioneer, Yamaha, Denon and NAD. Only the NAD came close to the sound the Marantz creates. When I finally decide to upgrade again it will be to Marantz separates. FWIW, I demo'd a number of receivers during this last round of upgrading and the most musical of all of them was the Marantz. IMO, of course.

Just to add to what Bill H. said, some of the early KG-4's are 4 ohm. Mine are.

We have a nearly identical setup. I just sold my RS-3's, which are the big brother to the SS-1's. I thought the RS-3's sounded really good but I wanted to upgrade to a larger speaker for the surrounds and for multi-channel music. I think the technology in these speakers works well for surround in movies but if you want to use them for multi-channel music you may be happier with a non-WDST design.

I can't speak for the reference but I don't think the synergy would be a good match. As the others have mentioned, your best bet is a KLF or Academy. If you wait long enough one or both will turn up on Ebay. It will only be a matter of how much you're willing to spend to get it. My Academy cost me, IIRC, $540. Way too much but in all honesty it is a perfect and seamless match with my Forte II's so I'd do it again if I had to.

Thanks for the additional replies. I'm going to play around with the toe-in to see what works best for me. We're planning to build a new room this summer and when that happens I'll have all sorts of options, including moving the speakers off of the front wall and spreading them out. Right now I have them about 7 inches off the front wall and on either side of the TV stand (roughly 5' apart). In the new room I'll be able to spread them to around 10' apart and maybe 18" from the side wall. I'll be able to push the speakers off the front wall by anywhere from 15" to 30", but that is probably too far given the rule of thumb coulter suggested. BTW, I assume the 15" from the front wall is to the center of the passive on the back, correct? So with toe-in the center of the passive would be 15", one corner would be less than 15" and the other more. Do I have that correct?

When all else fails, RTFM, which I would have done if I had one. Thanks for posting the link, Gil. I have my speakers toe'd in now, slightly in front of my seating position but that's through sheer dumb luck. I had read somewhere that crossing them in front could open up the sweet spot slightly so I tried it and liked it. I'm in a tweaking mood so I may play around with the placement just to see what happens. Thanks again!

Rather than start a new thread, I'll ask here. I've been reading about speaker placement recently and when it comes to toe-in I keep seeing things like 'manufacturers recommendation for the speaker' and that some speakers should be toe'd in and others not. It got me to wondering where the Forte II's fall. Are they supposed to be toe'd in or not? Yes, I'm playing around with what I like but it would be nice to know what is considered to be 'right' for the Forte II. After that I'll consider which is more important t me, soundstage width or center image, etc. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the reply. I think you nailed it with the bass. I had the house to myself for the last hour so I put a number of cd's through the system at low and high volume. Not a single one caused the sound to occur except for the one CD I mentioned. I could get it to repeat over and over again. It starts at a point where the bass really kicks in. The CD is Kodo "Ibuki", which is Japanese drumming and very bass intensive. There is something about this CD that my KG's hate because it plays beautifully on the Forte II's. I would have never thought a bass driver could make that sound. Anyway, I feel relieved that there appears to be no problems with the KG-4's. I plan on handing them down to my son once he gets a little older. Thanks.

BTW, why can't I get paragraph breaks?! Is this a Safari thing?

Hi all. I have a KG-4 in a 2 channel system that has developed a problem. When playing certain music, mainly bass-heavy and at a medium to high volume, I get this sound coming from the speaker. It sounds kinda like a high pitched pop/squeek you hear from a sneaker on a indoor gym floor, but definitely electronic in nature. I've tried two different amps (NAD and Denon) with the speaker and get the same results. I've tried the same CD at high volume in my HT system and the sound is not there. The other weird thing is that I can repeat it over and over again with this bass-heavy CD, in different parts of the track, but it doesn't always occur with other music. It's something about how this CD sounds that causes the speaker to freak out. Does anyone care to guess what it might be? I THINK it's the tweeter but that's a 100% guess. It just seems like the logical thing given how high-pitched the sound is. However, for all I know it's the crossover. I've never diagnosed a speaker problem until now. I guess I've been lucky so far. TIA

I think that I must have been unclear. I don't want to switch from the Forte II's to the RF's. I was only using the RF's because that's what they had in the store and I figured the RF's would be better than listening to a non-Klipsch. I'm interested in what people think of the Pioneer or Denon with Klipsch in general, not just the RF's. For that matter, I've recently come across the Marantz sr7002 and added that to the short list. Man, no offense to RF owners but I shudder at the thought of replacing my OO Forte II's with those. I LOVE my speakers.

I'm in the middle of researching a new receiver purchase and I was wondering if anyone here using either of these receivers would be willing to post your thoughts on them. I'm having a hard time deciding between the two of them. I've listened to both at my local BB paired with RF82's. To be honest, I thought both receivers sounded warm but less detailed/clear than I expected them to be. I'm wondering if it was the receivers or just the way the RF82's sound. I'm so used to the way my Forte II's sound that anything else sounds odd to my ears. Anyway, I'd appreciate any opinions on these two receivers. I'd especially like to hear what people think about the power output of the Pio. The recent S&V review wasn't kind to the 94 with 7 channels driven (61 wpc vs the stated 140). I know the Forte II's are very sensitive but I still don't like the thought of a receiver that drops so far below its rating.

Good to know. I'll check the Outlaw out.

I guess I can take the lack of replies as a sign that few people use S/N with Klipsch. That in and of itself may be an answer to my question.

Does anyone have any experience driving Klipsch with Sherwood Newcastle? I've been reading the specs on the upcoming R-972 and I think it has a lot of potential. I'd like to add it to my short list along with the Denon 3808ci and the Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH but I'm not sure how SN matches up with Klipsch. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any SN dealers in my area so I can't go and check it out in person very easily. Is the SN brand considered bright, warm, neutral? I've never heard a SN receiver, or their low-end Sherwood line. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=785388 The link is old and some specs have changed but: http://www.audioholics.com/news/trade-show-coverage/2007-consumer-electronics-show-ces/sherwood-newcastle-r-972-hdmi-1-3-receiver