MoparBob

I just fired up for the first time in a few years. I don't think the sound of my old Denon 2803 was not great. Was running a Denon AVP8000 that had great sound but was still a little short of my Carver C4000 preamp. Now that I have a Denon 3808 I fired up the old Denon DP62L turntable with a Denon DL302 cartridge. Wow even though it has many hours on it. Maybe to many. I still ELP's Tarkus by Mobile Fidelity's master disc and put in the CD in to my Blueray player Panasonic BD35. No contest, the blueray was thin and no detail. We will see when I pick up my new player tomorrow a Denon 3800 blueray. It has some great dac's so we will see. Now I have a Sumiko Blue Point MC 1st gen with 10hrs on it so I may try it. My qusetion is can I run that through MM phono input 3mv my 302 has a .29mv output so I have to go through my old Carver since it's will push the 302's low output. I have tried a few MC preamps but thy will not push the 302's low output. I like the look of the new Denon 103 but that also has .3mv output. Is there a MC preamp that will not cost $3000+ that will run the .3mv?

That is how I started with my home theater back in 1984. I bought my Cornwalls and didn't have anything to play them with for 6 mo. Buy the best you can and buy a peice at a time. My wife was like, you want to spend how much on speakers. I just said trust me. After we had them for some mo. we went over to a buddies house and heard his system that was low dollar. When we got back in the car, all I heard was F*** You. I said what and said that sound like S*** and ever since when I say I need to spend X dollar she says OK.

If you clip them your getting the boot. The Outlaw should have the power but I never listen to it. You don't want something that is forward sounding like the Sony. I think that the Sony is very bright. My son has driven his with a Denon 1802 and a 2307 and now the Carver M500T. they all work OK. Look for a RC7 for the center and yes it's big. I think you will like the speakers they are ones that you could be running 20 years from now and still rock.

That sounds like a good price. Do you look at the specs on them they go to 32hz. Like I said you can run them with out a sub for now and they will out do a 8" sub. You will like them, but they like a little power. He is running a Denon 2307 and it sounded good, but when he used my Carver M500T power amp 250wpc it came alive. That is a great old power amp, I ran in my first home theater.

I want to say that my son bought his for around 1600.00 new about 4 years ago. I would think about 900 - 1100.00 but if he is hard for money low ball him at 700.00 all he can say is no and go from there but have the money in hand to do that.

Great speaker. They were over $1000.00 each and I think $1500.00 is high. My son has RF 7's with a RC 7 and a pair of RB75's. He was running with out a sub. They have a good bottom end. Not as good as my Cornwalls but still good and much better than the 35's you were looking at.

I have 3 Corns across the front with a RSW15 and love it. Music is number 1 for me and the RSW 15 blends well. I cross the fronts at 40hz, Yes that is low, but they are Corns and I don't need the boost till then. My room has bass traps and Sonex on the rooms walls so you may need to cross higher. I find on older recordings the will not be on at a 40hz cross over, but newer recordings it will be. You just need to see where your system falls off on the lows. I love the RSW 15 but a second one is always better so I may look for one some day.

You can also try to swap the center channel and the lest or right channel. This will tell you if it's the speaker. Try hooking up the blueray with optical cable If you have a old DVD try that. If it's still there with the old DVD it's the receiver, but if it went away with the optical cable on the blueray it could be the blueray or the receiver and you must try a new HDMI, receiver or blueray. Borrow one, but I lean to the receiver giving you trouble. That it one step at a time and you can find the trouble.

I use a RSW15 it works great. It keeps up with 4 Cornwall's and go's low. RSW15's are out there if you look. There is a new one on Ebay.

I have to say that wood looks cool, like the one you have in your avatar. That said I'm not sure that it is worth the hassle of time and money. That said, I think the 511b looks cool also.

Is it that it's a tractrix horn or is it the wood. I'm looking to build 3 Cornscalla's and trying to see if I should build or buy a wood horn or go with whats out there, like the 511b. I would think if I used a tractrix in front it wouldn't voice the same as my Cornwall's and Heresy's in the back. I missed that Al's horn are tractrix. OK what about a wood horn built like a 511b vs a 511b. I'm trying to see if it's worth the time or the money to go with wood over metal that is dampened. I haven't listen to any wood horns

The problem is with 3 zones My Denon 3808 witch you may catch on sale now with the 4310 just coming out. Has 3 zones but you lose 1 when you go to 7.1. The big Pioneer I tried had the same thing when you go to 7.1. So I took the analog from my dish dvr to an old receiver to feed the swimming pool and the deck. zone 3 to a old Denon 1802 in the garage. You will have no power out if you go to 7.1 on zone 3. You will have power with a Denon 5808 it has 10 channels of power, but that is a chunk of money.

Hi Roby Where in Italy do you live? I use to live in Vicenza Italy for 3 years. That is where I bought my first set of Cornwalls in the PX. I had to order them in. I loved it over there. I worked in a TV station as a engineer over there. That was between 83 and 86 I would love to go back and visit or live, great country. Bob

Is there a big difference between a 511b and a wood horn like the ones that Al is selling? I will be using K55 drivers for some Cornscalla's Bob

Great work What adapters did you use for the 511B to fit the K55's?

Yes look at Blurjean cables they sell Belden and Canare cable they are the ones that you will find in tv and radio stations. You will find them in recoarding studios. Belden is the king and every one will ask if it's as good as Belden. Their are both very good and no hype

Let me put my two cents in and take this from someone that is a Audio and Video engineer for 20+ years. When we had NTSC and early days of HD the receivers but the most high dollor one's didn't have the bandwidth for a good picture, so you would bypass the receiver. Today that has changed short of the most cheap receivers. A good receiver may have a better upscaler than a tv, mine does. My blueray has a better upscaler than the receiver, so I use the blueray upscaler for disc and the receiver for Dish. If you run everything throuh the receiver you can use only 1 cable to the tv, a HDMI so less money to hook it up. My other point is why would you have nice Klipsch speaker system and a nice receiver and listen to cheap tv speakers. Yes you put more hours on the receiver but so what. Who has the same receiver that they had 5 or 10 years ago? I have gone throuh 5 prepro's and receivers since 1984 with my first home theater. As for the speakers us them. I'm still running my same 84 Corns and 85 Heresy's and have only replaced one tweeter form my son. You spent the money so us it.