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Thats pretty Cool actually. I wonder if we could somehow trian them to do a little maintenance or trouble shooting?

OK! Lunch is over NOW!!

Yikes! Is that what a dust bunny looks like?

I'll pitch in here with my experience. I have two sets of the mighty Forte II's and I love them. I also have Heresy's and RF 25's, At wuzzzer's suggestion in a previous thread I stacked my two pair and man what a diff!! I just recently kicked up the power from 60 wpc to 120 wpc then went all in with a Kenwood Basic M2 at 220wpc (@8). This was a real improvement. I had positioned the stack well before but the extra horsepower really made a difference in the sound. More and tighter bass, broader sound stage, more defenition. I am hearing new licks from Santana on an Albumn I have heard a hundred times. Lot's of possibilities with the Forte's get em and make them sing!

So I haven't stacked and wired my speakers yet, can't stop listening to them. I did move two each side by side and now have a one distinct right and left channel with two Forte' II's each. I must say the sound is amazing! I am very pleased. With this set up instead of the music being "right in the back of your head" it is out in front and right in the center. Very loud, descrete, reponsive and live. I like it! The cross channel set up was good but this is better, way better. Obviously bigger is better! Thanks Wuzzer for pointing out what now seems obvious. Who knows I may even add a sub!! Thanks to all for their input. I haven't had a chance to try the smaller Lux and Marantz with this configuration yet but am really looking forward to it!

I will do that! I don't think my Forte's will look as good as those KLF's (30's?) stacked, but it should sound good. Really, do you need that Sub?!? Honestly, That is over the top.

I would swear I read about it in some audio sales literature a very long time ago. Definately before "Quadraphonic" but about the same time. The concept seems reasonable to me. If you set directly in the center of the "square" created by the four speakers and if the speakers are "matched" in timbre and output then theoretically you shoud hear the sound from all four speakers at roughly the same time. That said, when you turn perpendicular to any of the four sides of the "listening area" you are getting a distinct left and right channel. The difference is behind you is the mirror image of this sound stage. The question then becomes does this mirror image offset or somehow neagate the front sound stage or add to it? I think in most situations it is an add. I must admit to being a relatively new owner of Klipsch speakers and can honestly say they have created a whole new level of enjoyment to all my music. Some show flaws like never before and others are unbelievable. I lived with nice equipment for many many years but now all bets are off. I have to reevaluate everything all over. What a joy!!

Blvdre, please elaborate a bit.

Bigger than LaScalas! Wow! My goal and taste are toward the quality not the volume or an over abundance of bass. I rairly go above 8 or 9 o'clock with either the Lux or Marantz. That said, I can notice the depth and resonance of sound more when I have the Forte's hooked up to the Kenwood 125 wpc. When I turn up the smaller amps it gets louder but not better. What I want is that husky, smoky sound like FM with a deep voiced announcer and some dead air space but at a low volume. I do not like to use the loudness circuit, but that is like what I want. I think tubes may well do that but that is currently not an option. Ultimately maybe the tube pre-amp, SS main is where my tastes are, this has recently been discussed and sounds great. I guess what I am saying is that with what I have II get great sound at high volumes with all my equipment, better low's and resonance with more wpc, but I would like to have all of that at lower volume levels. Sorry if this is all being described poorly.

Thanks Islander and all, I understand. I really did want to "daisy chain" the amps but understand that is not quite that simple. I also have a couple other 120 plus wpc receivers that I have hooked up. A Kenwood Kr-1000b and a JVC A-X900. I can definately notice the difference in the speakers over the Marantz or Lux (mainly on the low's) but the overall quality of the sound is not as good as the Luz or Marantz. I was hoping to achieve the best of both worlds with what I had. Regarding the diagonal(Cross Channel) speaker set up, I like it. The sound stage seems to be more of a "surrond" I guess. The instrument separation is there. It seems fuller and more live. Speaker placement is critical but if all the angles and distances are right, it sounds as if the music is right in the back of your head and not from any one of the speakers when you look straight at them. When I do set them up with both sets left and both sets right if you will there is definately more discrete separation of channels but not as full IMO. I would definately like to here your thoughts.

I think you and Sargent are thinking of the same thing here. I do have jumpers on the Lux. One amp on each pair would probably be an improvement. This sounds now a lot like bi amping. Thanks.

This is just for music, no HT. I usually run the four speakers in a cross pattern where the same channel is diagonal across the room from the other set.

Ok, this seems simple, but I want to be very clear on this before I do it! I want to hook my Luxman L-5 (60wpc) into a Marantz 2250B (50wpc) and come out with 110wpc with the Marantz connecting all the source inputs ie. turntable, tape, aux. etc., and attaching the speakers (four Forte II's as a main set and remote set in the same room) Both the Lux integrated amp and the Marantz receiver have "Main- In and Pre-out" RCA jacks. My plan is connecting the "Pre-out of the Luxman to the "Main-In" on the Marantz. Is this correct? Thanks, Steve

Nice job! This looks very clean and well thought out. The duplicate hard drives are a must.

Good advise about the spine damage!

I have not heard an R-115 but I would guess the rated watts will sound like a whole lot more! IMO Luxman is very neutral=clean=crisp in design and thus offers little in terms of coloration of sound. I like that! A common design philosophy, I think with Klipsch. I think many marketing mis-steps set Luxman back a long way in those "mid years".

Hello, Not an expert but a big fan of Luxman products. Excellent build quality and supper clean sounding. The silver faced units are the earlier and better gear. Cosmetically they are beautiful, simple and understated. IMO. I have an L-5 that I bought new and have played almost daily since. However, I never knew just how good it could sound until I got my first pair of Klipsch speakers,(rf-25's) Then I was truely impressed by how great it sounded when I added a set of Heresys. And now I am just blown away with the sound and power since I aquired my first pair of forte II's.

This is why I love this forum! Good information! Thanks for sharing.