garyeanderson

The plant stains will likely sand out in less than 10 minutes, at least so they are not blaring in your face Lacquer dry's pretty fast too. the front edge banding can be replaced fairly easy at least easier then the tops as trying to match an edge doesn't offer as much to view. They may not be worth the money but the money isn't worth what it was a couple years ago either. Besides the money they are printing more of the Belle's are not likely to be built again anytime soon. All that said, I wouldn't pay it either but I really am trying to downsize and not doing a very good job of it.

I do not know what the original angle is/was as have newer seen a pair of slants (or a single for that matter). When I got the pair of empty oak Heresy cabs they had been drilled and had no risers with them so I decided to make a pair. I am guessing that at the time I did some research and I didn't find an answer (or there was conflicting information) so I did some eyeball engineering (yep, that looks good) and went with it. It likely went something like this, lets see - this hunk of cut off 2 x 4 ought to do and propped up the front of the Heresy with said 2 x 4 and sat in a chair about 10 feet away and starred at empty cabinet and it looked, well, correct. Now the back was sitting on the floor and the front up one and a half inches I needed to add bit of altitude to the back to screw the riser to the original holes that were already there so that ended up at about 3/4 inch so that was added to the fronts also. Now the fronts were 2.25 inch and the backs .75 inch, sit back and look from the same position 10 feet away. So I had the plan in my head and the 1 x 4 Brazilian Cherry in my hand I went to the table saw to make it work. I forgot to say the flooring was FREE so that was much of the motivation to make it work and several of the lengths were 54 inches which works well if I didn't mess up . So that's how the 7.5 degree angle was determined (I think) by me and besides its tough to put your drink (or a plant for that matter) on one without spilling or siding off Gary

I read the topic that you had posted about not drilling into the H700's (mine had already been drilled so that option was off the table), I would have done something different if they had not been drilled. I glued the diagonal braces in place and then used the original risers as the template to mark the holes and kind of had some issues drilling them with a 20v battery powered drill. they darkened up nicely with a coat of oil.

The glue was dry this morning so I sanded lightly and offered one of the new risers under the Heresy. glue blocks cut (I messed up and mitered the wrong face of one of the fronts of the riser yesterday and hated to waste it)

So I have been at this little project for a while and February still has a few days in it. If you have read this topic in "Alerts", I try not to bore you. I just didn't want to fix the straight risers that came with these Heresy's so I thought I would get around to making a pair of slant risers. This picture was taken on February 2nd and it looked just like that until Sunday the 16th (don't want to rush things, ya know) when I cut some of this Brazilian Cherry flooring to length (about twelve and a quarter inches) and used the new taper jig and made a couple cuts. I tried the angled cut pieces under the Heresy's and I liked the angle (about 7.5 degrees or 1.625 inch rise over the 12.25 inch run) Yesterday I cut the fronts and backs then mitered the corners at 45, then out came the glue and masking tape (nice burn huh?). I am going to put some glue blocks in the front two corners and hopefully give a bit of strength

The risers were just set aside when I got the Heresy's and I was going to glue the loose veneer back on but there was also some missing so it took the back seat and just sat. After installing all the components I just looked at the risers and placed them beside for a before and after of what a half a dozen coats of oil will do. 2-23-2020 - just to add some closure to this topic I built some slant risers, the topic is posted in mods section of the forum I think they came out nice for the amount of money and time spent, they are not perfect nor was that the intent. They may be too nice to put into the rear seat area of my extended F250 pickup, I'll just have to see how it goes... Heresy now sitting upon the black EV TL606 cabinet Thanks to everyone for looking, following along and the words of support Gary

H700 on left and Heresy on the right, they both have that dark walnut look to then now I think they each ended up with 6 coats of boiled linseed oil. got the parts back inside - need to get them hooked up soon

Mitered edges and corners, very nice!

Yesterday was another long day (five I guess) of just letting it soak in, about 3 hours per side sitting in a puddle of oil. this picture is just after lightly hand buffing with a dry cloth. The sunrise was good this morning so I dragged them into the light - no flash Gary

I was up early this morning to get another coat (the forth one) as I will be away. I need to get more boiled linseed oil but had enough to finish. they are starting to get loaded as they are not drinking it up anymore, I'll probably wait until Sunday for the next application. Top and side wet after oil applied at 5am - it looked similar nearly 2 hours later, there were a few dry looking spots on the cab on the left before I mopped off the excess oil at . after I mopped them down - you can still see a couple of chips and scratches I didn't sand out. Better to see the scratch that the wood under the veneer

They were on craigslist for about 3 weeks and I finally got around to calling about them on Friday. Saturday left home about 9:30 and got back a 1:30 - about 140 miles round trip. The TL606 's were made back in the 80's and have some heavy EVM type 15 's in them. The seller said that one was a 200watt version, the other 400watt. I didn't remove them to look yet but I am sure that will happen in time. I had one problem, they had some speakon NL2 connectors on the back and I had no cables so they were just stands until yesterday when I went looking for cables to hook them up. I stopped at the local music store and they didn't have any for the older NL2 jacks so the next stop was Pro Sound Service in Braintree. In about 20 minutes I was good to go with NL4 jacks and plugs for $25. I got home and looked around for wire and all I could find were a couple of old drop light cords that were in a pile of wire so I use them. One orange and the other yellow, I spent about half an hour installing the ends and putting the new jacks in place. I then got to turn on the radio and hit it at the right time, the moldies station were just starting to play "Teenage Wasteland" by the Who so with the H700 's on one B & K 1400 and TL606 's on another I turned up the advent 300 used as a preamp to about half way and John Entwistle's bass playing nor the TL606 's didn't let me down. I brought in the center MWMs clone and the Khorn top (K400 horn with a Peavey 22a and a K77round magnet) powered by another amp, a B & K 2500 (5 channels with separate gains, one channel each set up in Mono for the Khorn top and and MWMs, the other three channels are set up as a left, a right for the Belle's , and I think the other is dead with these 3 channels set at 0 gain ). After the song ended I turned it down and left the house to rest my ears. I think they are keepers one TL606 in vinyl The other in rat fur

I think its a smart move, yours look great. I am glad that I finally got a pair.

Hi Jay Like I said earlier, this is probably the wrong place for a restore topic but if some one learns and takes what they learn and save a beat up pair of Heresy, Cornwall, Lascala, or Klipschorn's speakers then I am all in. Much of what I have learned is via this forum and by doing it (well I guess that didn't work or OK, good enough). The boiled linseed sequence is likely something I read on this forum, maybe I modified it a bit but I have done a lot of digging here and usually ask questions After. I have not said anything about spontaneous combustion so I will now BOILED LINSEED OIL on RAGS is DANGEROUS, a true FIRE HAZARD. When I am done with these oil soaked rags, I place them in a ziplock plastic bag and squeeze all of the air out, then I put the bag in a air proof metal container. I reused the same rags that I did the H700's with 6 or so weeks ago and when I am completely done, the oil soaked rags go outside and spread out to get rained on until I can get them to the transfer station to dispose of them. Any way I put on the third coat yesterday and they are starting to look better, the flash helps a lot in some of these photos. The following photo was taken last night at about 6 pm with no lights. just the flash to light up the speakers. the color is getting better and I hope they will look as good as the H700's One of the H700's after 7 or so coats and 6 weeks to develop

Well just maybe folks have waited too long. I am going to look at a pair of EV TL606 with some EVM 15L installed in them, going to try them in the Cornwall clones and Peavey FH1 folded horns and see which I like better. I guess I'll try the TL606 first .

Hi Jay I didn't do a lot, Klipsch made a fine product and used some very nice Veneered lumber core plywood back when this pair of Heresy's were made. It has allowed me to sand out many of the issues that neglect by its owners over the years have inflicted. I sanded with a DA with 150 grit as much as I dared, I did no remove any of the deep dings or scratches. Most oiled wood looks bad once it has dried out and it more than likely is more easily damaged by the fact that less care is taken moving and transporting because it/they looks like piece of junk. The front grain that I glued on doesn't match all that well, but that's a money thing, I can not justify investing more that they are worth so I cut a few corners (that may be a pun) to make them just look ok, the picture below is after the second coat of oil ( I cheated and did a second coat on the second day, it looked so sad and thirsty) and the color mitered face veneer doesn't match the tops that well but I hope in time with a bit of UV light it will get closer. If I make them too nice, I will feel badly about using them as I had originally intended, that is in the back of the F350 extended cab. Gary

I believe that Andy ( HDBRbuilder ) is the person that built this fine pair of speakers. this one is 67 S 588 and the other is 67 S 587

After I got home I took off the clamps and brought them both outside to sand, used the DA and some 150 paper to level off the edge strips (not really edge banding as its kind of thick). I had to sand the sides, bottom and top to flush things off so I ended up doing both cabs to hopefully make them match. As I flipped one of the cabs it caught on my sleeve and lifted off a small piece of the edge banding I didn't mess with, so out came the glue, clamp and wax paper. I left it on the side deck and went for a drive down to the beach. Not much happening, but a young couple came running down to the waters edge and stripped down to their bathing suits. Kind of a nice site to see that much skin in January with the temperature at nearly 30 degrees. The next thing I see is them both running into the water (well at least its a bit warmer at 46 degrees), they didn't stay in long and left back to the warmth of the rental car. With that over I went back home to finish sanding. I got a coat of oil on both and took them back outside for a picture. they look ok and with several more I think they will be OK. This picture is this morning at dawn with a flash and it make them look better but they are still look dry, the one on the right has sucked in all of the oil and is crying for another drink.

I went to see a friend, he does some high end cabinet work and I thought he may have some edge banding, well he did but not any walnut so he found a 4 ft. length and ripped 3 narrow strips of about 3/32 of an inch in width. I taped off the perimeter of the speaker with good 3M yellow masking tape to prevent glue from drooling down the sides and pleasing me. I guess I took this picture before taping and its been pulled just before this one. The color does not seem to match very well so I'll just have to see how it looks after oiling. I clamped this last piece about 7:15 this morning so I hope to get it sanded and maybe a coat of oil today. we'll see...

I'm not sure I should continue this thread here in alerts but I guess I will. Tops were sanded and look good so I continued and stripped the edge banding off the front of the worst one (on the right). The cabinet on the left has nice gash on the top right edge that is beyond my ability to repair (inexpensively anyway) so it will stay, I am guessing/hoping it will not be as obtrusive once the cabs are oiled.

I was not looking to buy the Heresies from the buyer/seller (flipper?) but the difference in the money was not a lot and I didn't really want to see them parted out like so many in the past. The year of build was 1978 (S) so they are not that rare but like every thing else "once its gone it's gone" and the chances of bringing it back a quite slim. The bacon spattered H700's that I got last month look pretty good, these are in about the same condition but the bottoms are better (not stored in the damp basement) so I am hopeful that after 6 or 7 coats of boiled linseed oil they will look like 42 year old speakers that someone cared for, even the last 10 years. It's not like I needed these but it will kill off a few more days of winter, and possibly get me part way into the dreaded month of February. It takes me about 3 weeks to apply 6 coats of oil. Day 1 - oil, skip a day - oil, skip 2 days - oil, skip 3 days - oil, skip 4 days - oil, etc. By the end of 3 weeks they stop drinking it up.

I think that by this afternoon I will know more about the tops, yesterday afternoon it was up to 22 degrees so I didn't take them outside to sand the tops. Today its likely to get above freezing so I might get them taken apart and outside for a quick sanding of the tops. There are a couple of small "dents" that I will have to leave in one of the sides as they as deep enough that sanding is probably pointless. Anyone have a round magnet K77 that they are willing to part with? I hope to find a match for the chip along the top edge of this side the dent about 8 inches from the bottom 2 inches from the back is ok by me

I really like the grain pattern on the sides, they will never be perfect but will be nice. I got them to go into the back seat of the f350 extended cab. not sure they will make it there. Guess I have to wait to see how they look after the cleanup and oiling.

So the story goes, I saw them on 9th just before 9am, I got the reply from the seller that they had been sold. What a great person to take the time to even reply. The seller apparently had been given the speakers so he was making a quick buck, besides one of the speakers was intermittent. His girl friend/wife liked them so much that he was after a pair of Forte's and was given the OK if he sold the Heresy's (so the reason for a quick sale). The buyer, who was not me, posted the mid range K55v's yesterday and I was interested so I emailed about them and asked if he had just gotten them for the "Ben Franklin" and he acknowledged in the affirmative. I met the buyer/seller at 12:30 and made the deal for the speakers minus the K77's as he wanted to keep them for another purpose. When I got home I reassembled the mids and added a K77 in one and a K77m in the other as that was what I had at hand. Once I put the backs on and put some signal to them one of them came to life and the other dead as a fa-, well you know what I mean. I pulled the back off and inspected my re-assembly work and nothing looked out of place so I grabbed the wirers from the back to the network and gave them a wiggle and the heresy came to life. I tightened the screw and all is good now. All I need now is to replace the K77m with the proper tweeter and all should be good. the tops need a bit of help - I think I can make them OK But the fronts are going to need new edge trim - we will have to see how the matching goes.

I could offer them empty as well. The woofer is raised a bit in these cabinets, I was planning on going to a 2 way driver setup so a k600 horn and tweeter may not fit. I would have to measure to be certain. Gary

Bump - Still available - call me at 781 206-012nine - halfway between Plymouth and Boston