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Sounds amazing, but I haven't really enjoyed it yet. The couch I ordered arrived and ended up not fitting into my basement, so I've been forced to order a new setup. It will take another 14 weeks before it shows up...ugh! Even though I've sat down there with just a chair and listened to music and watched clips from my favorite movies, I haven't really enjoyed it yet. On a side note, the two subs you see in the photos are the Klipsch SW-112's and I'm not that impressed with them. It may be that the bass is being lost by escaping the room, but I won't know until the room is furnished and complete. This saturday I'm hooking up a James Cinema 15 to compare for giggles. I plan on doing a bunch of wall treatments and along with the new couch I'm hoping it will contain the sound a lot better. Is the floor concrete? It’s way harder to get good bass on top of concrete. Subs on normal floors shake the whole floor and that shakes your chair and you. But in a basement setup you’re going to have to get creative a little bit. Some people are happy with the bass they get but it took me 3 subs before I got the bass I was looking for on concrete. And one is very close to the LP. I know you probably don’t want to run wires because you did the wires behind the walls. You can get subs that are wireless. A few good brands for that are Rhythmic subs and I think HSU subs make a good wireless sub. Just looking at your pics I would look to put one behind the couch (I’m guessing at where you’re putting the couch) similar to how I have mine. I know it’s different but look to the right of this pic behind the couch. I have one sub there then two up front like you. The subs up front are bigger than yours but I use to have this same set up with 2 klipsch rw-12d subs up front and it was plenty of bass. I changed because the port broke loose on one and they dented the cone trying to fix it. By that time that model was discounted and ultimate electronics was going bankrupt so they just gave me my money back. I used the money to buy a SVS sub and then it looked funny having one small sub and one huge sub upfront. I sold the other one and bought the Epik Empire. Also your room is a lot bigger than mine so it might take bigger subs to pressurize that room with bass. Also just a suggestion I would put your spikes on your rf-7 so the feet don’t sink in. (unless you like it)

I noticed some are cheap like 20 bucks or less and some are really spendy. Like brother in arms is 20 bucks on amazon sacd.

They have all that, but the horn in the RF-3 is no slouch. I sit 3.5 ft from my front sub (side wall...lousy location) 4ft from my surrounds and 7 ft from my rear sub and in this configuration I missed the mid bass more than the upper end when using the RB-75s....Again, see my post above and know I won't be selling either pair of RB-75s I own but check E-Bay upon my death. I hear yea, you know you’re set up way better than we do. I used to have the rf-82 and loved them so if the rf-3 sounds anything like them I agree they are great HT speakers.

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Great post sub, 2 channel music needs its own set up imo. I know some think eq is like putting sauce on a good steak. But every room and person has different taste. I still go back to what I said before and would recommend getting a standalone eq. set the avr to direct stereo and run the eq between the avr and the emo. That would give it a finer warmer sound that works so much better for 2 channel music.

Are you serious? RF-3 over RB-75? If that's the case, I'll take them off your hands and give you a pair of RF-3s right now! Not Kidding. If you run them all with a sub and use the "small" setting, I don't see how this is possible. I would also take rb-75. They have better drivers and materials used in them. Rf-3 is nice and probably looks cooler set up as surrounds but that rb-75 horn is the …t. []

That’s an interesting idea I’m sure that will be awesome. ROTS picture is as good as avatar very fun to watch. []

When I’m running just 5.1 content my rear speakers get the same info as my surrounds (left to left and right to right). So they get just as much information as the surrounds and are just as loud. Of course when it’s 6.1 or 7.1 then it’s separate. I turned everything off but the rear speakers to see how much content they are actually getting and it’s surprisingly way more than I thought it would be. If you run super small speakers the content will probably sound small so it’s up to you on how much you want from it.

How many band eg is the EmoQ vs Audyssey? You could get a normal 10band standalone eq and run it in-between your avr and your emo xpa3 (rca from your pre out front left and right to the eq inputs then the outputs on the eq to the xpa-3). Just have it on bypass when you are watching movies and on when you’re listing to music. If I was going to make my set up into a serious 2 channel/ ht that’s what I would do. Honestly it’s hard for me to go to just basic 2 channel music and not be underwhelmed. I’m way too spoiled with that multi-channel sound filling the room to a plain right left stereo. So I have been buying SACD music and it’s awesome. It the music we love redone in multichannel sound.

I watched them 1-6 but I can see how the other way would be good. Being that they get better and better sound and audio wise if you go 4-6 then 1-3 it might be a better way. The old movies audio doesn’t hold a candle to the newer ones. So if you go 1-6 when you get to movie 4 it will be a huge drop in quality and dare I say be a letdown. So if I did it all over I would have started with 4.

Got the cds today and wow the Brothers in Arms SACD sounds just amazing. They did a great job on the multi-channel mix. I have the cd and it was already a good sounding cd but wow the cleanness and warmth is scary good. Sadly the ps3 plays SACD but doesn’t play dvd audio (didn’t know that) so the steely Dan can only play the Dolby 5.1 track and not the 24 bit one. I plan on getting a separate player that plays both. Anyone have any recommendations?

We have very similar rooms minus the fire place. I while back i moved my set up the long way like how you have yours to try it and see how it sounded compared to the narrow way that I have it. I thought the speakers were way to close to the Lp and didn’t sound nearly as good. Also having your couch against a wall makes that even worse. You should try moving it the narrow way in front of the fire place to try it. I recommend sitting a min of 10’ away from the 7s.

YES! They sound so clean and alive it’s almost like magic lol. [ip]

Nice choice I think you will be very happy. Are they on back order? Why will it take that long?

Those def tec are really nice I demoed those for almost a good hour and really liked how they sounded. I also love how they are very sleek and modern looking. Plus the def tec are made to have a really small footprint and fit into any room. Try and find a place that has both the 7s and the def tec and demo both if you can. You can probably guess what I like better but they are both very clean sounding speakers. When buying b stock always find out why they are b stock first. If it’s because of color then make sure you can get the center channel b stock also so they match.

I dumb the vivid down a little by scaling back a lot of the settings from standard vivid to get a custom vivid mode. But it’s a good starting point for me. I’m not a huge fan of what a calibrated TV would be. Theater modes on TVs look terrible to me. Even the perfectly calibrated ones. The down side of vivid though is that if the source is crap it magnifies the crap. I have noticed that films with no grain usually look awesome in vivid. Something to try []

Ratings are done with a 5 point system. 5 are perfect and 1 would be the worst. 3 is ok 4 is good and 5 of course is reference level. Just finished watching all the movies and would like to give a small review. Before I give my review I want to be clear that I like all the movies and don’t mind any of the changes that he has made so the review is about the blu rays and nothing more. I will refer to the movies with the #s 1-6 as in episodes 1-6. The first two movies (1 and 2) look very good. I don’t personally like film grain so for me these movies looked amazing. Keep in mind I watch my TV on vivid picture mode so even the softer parts look very clean, bright, and full of color and detail. If I watched movies on theater mode like I know a lot of people do then I could see how they might be too soft but in vivid I give both movies an easy 4.5-5 for picture. The 3rd (ROTS) movie is an easy 5 for picture and some parts are as good as avatar. What a fun movie to watch. For audio these 3 movies are simply some of the best multi-channel audio on the planet. Just giving them a 5 for sound isn’t enough. I have a lot of great audio blu rays but the work they did on these is another level of detail wow nice job. Movie 4 (new hope) is the only movie that didn’t wow me. The sound was ok but on the really loud parts it falls apart and even distorted on some stuff. It also had a really brassy sound that was a huge drop from the clean sounding audio from movies 1, 2 and 3. I would give it a 3 for audio and a 4 for picture. Movies 5 and 6 look amazing. It was like I was watching these movies for the first time (even though I have these movies over 10 times each). They look so good that it was hard for me to pay attrition sometimes because I was looking all around at the back grounds and details. I give these a 4.5 and in some places a perfect 5 for picture. The audio for 5 and 6 was a great improvement from movie 4 new hope. Still not the reference levels of the 1, 2 and 3 but better than they have ever sounded and are both a strong 4 for audio. If just comparing these movies to other old movies they would rank higher but I’d rather just rate them vs everything. Overall I’m actually shocked how good they did on these. I do recommend for people that watch movies in a theater type mode for their TV picture to try a vivid or dynamic mode. These movies have no grain so going vivid or dynamic is really a nice mode for these. Pre T TPM P/A /4.5/5 AOTC 4.5/5 ROTS 5/5 Original ANH 4/3 ESB 4.5/4 ROTJ 4.5/4

Crazy talk like that will get you sent over to the BOSE forum. You won't hear too many guys around here that feel anything is overkill. You just won't have to turn it up as loud. I had the opportunity to add a Velodyne DD12 along side my HGS15 and to be honest, I didn't really hear any difference by adding it. Not exactly sure why. I guess I was expecting the entire roof to cave in or something. You will have more surface area with two 12" drivers and if I remember correctly, if you are able to stack one on top of the other, you will dramatically add a considerable amount of bass (can't remember the exact SPL). I'm sure others will chime in who have much more experience in this area than I. TheEar....if you are listening, can you post a photo (or someone else post it) showing your thoughts towards "overkill"? I agree with youth overkill isn’t really proper klipsch forum etiquette hehehe (jk). Bass is going to be about room and taste. So I would start with just one and see how it sounds. For me the magic number was 3 subs. But I have a friend with a small $150 10” polk sub and he loves it.

Looks great I bet it sounds awesome. []

The old movies are great stories but there just too old to hold up to the audio and visual levels of today. But those new movies have amazing sounds, effects and a sound field that’s shocking good.

One word on the sound. AMAZING! Slightly disagree. I have the original trilogy, not the entire Saga. One thing that was obvious to me is that people need to pump the breaks on audio expectations. These films were still made 30 years ago and the sound effects reminds you of that. I have NEVER found my Klipsch gear fatigueing in any way, but after watching the first two films I had a headache. The music, which sounds good, is so brassy that coupled with the very brassy/shrill blaster sound effects it really does a number on your ears. Make no mistake, IMO these films do NOT sound like any of the newer audio showcase blu rays out there. They may blow away the Star Wars DVD's, they may make your favorite movies of all time sound great because you want them too, but I honestly was let down a little bit by the sound. I know it's all because of the source material, but just keep that in mind when purchasing...IMO they don't sound fantastic, they sound fantastic for their age! The old movies have ok sound. I was referring to episodes 1,2, and 3 the sound is amazing. (Sorry if I wasn’t clear in my other posts)

I love the empire it’s a great sub and a great value. It’s almost as good as my svs that costs a lot more than the empire.

Pink Floyd wish you were here comes out next month finally on sacd. (Was done a few years ago but never released. Also The Wall comes out feb 2012 on super cd but no conformation on multi-channel yet. I really hope they release multi-channel on the wall. Just ordered 3 new ones Gaucho, Honky Chateau, and Brothers in Arms. Do any of you own these? And how good is the multi-channel in your opinion. I read these are a few of the best multi channels cds released so far.

+1 Very nice!