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I know they are hard to come by but thought it worth a try...I am looking for a pair of these speakers that is in good condition to go with my KLF-30 mains. Thanks for any replies!

Gary I have had the 30's for several years now and run them with an SVS 20-39PC+ sub. Love the sound of them together especially for HT. Only thing is these are all sizeable pieces so you need a good size room! Interesting that you think you may need to upgrade your AVR. I thought the same thing for years then finally decided to bite the bullet and go with separates. I never looked back and have been very pleased with the results! In other threads on this forum, members state that you won't be sorry combining the KLF-30s with a powerful amp. Believe me, that is 100% correct. Do the speakers NEED an amp as powerful as mine? Certainly not, but they do sound great when driven by a powerful amp. Clean and without distortion at any volume level I have experienced (I DO like to turn it down before my ears bleed though). Good luck with your decision.

Nice job of making your own customized rack system designed to meet your specific needs! How long did it take you to complete?

The C-7 has no rear ports. Hope this helps. Lots of luck!

Thanks guys for your suggestions. I will check them out! If not suitable for my center channel, then they may be options for my surrounds which are large and on the floor (therefore they need to be raised up a great deal for me to hear them well).

Hi guys. I need to make room for separates that are going to replace my HT receiver and my current shelving is full. My options are to get an audio rack for the new equipment, or to make room on the shelving that I already have. So here is what may be a crazy question, but has anyone figured out a way to place a large and heavy center channel speaker above their flat screen RPTV? My C-7 weighs 38 pounds and currently occupies the shelf underneath the TV. The top of my Sony KDS 55A-2000 TV is waaaay too thin to place anything but the tiniest speaker on. I have been wondering if some kind of shelving placed behind the TV would be a good option. It would have to be pretty tall (over 60") and not very deep. Although it might yield the best result, I will have a hard time fitting an audio rack into the space that I have. Thanks for reading my post and for any help/suggestions[]

I have been researching separates to replace my Kenwood Sovereign VR-5900 AVR. I have decided on the Integra DTC-9.8 for the controller and have been offered an Anthem A5 amp for $1650 [], a demo from my local dealer. These would be paired with my KLF-30's, C7, and JBL 4312A studio monitors. At present, I my system is 5.1 so the Anthem would drive what I have right now, and there is no timetable for upgrading to 7.1. What do you guys think about this combination? The price is certainly right-waaay better than used on Audiogon. It is important that the new equipment does not add to the inherent brightness of my KLF-30's. I have been told that the Audyssey MultEQ Pro feature on the DCT-9.8 will soften the sound somewhat. Other amplifiers under consideration at this time are the Outlaw 7700 and Gemstone's Blue Diamond, both more powerful (and expensive), having similar specs, and 7.1. Of course, Outlaw and Gemstone will sell you "B" stock for a bit less which reduces the price diff. When you consider that you will be using these separates for a few years before upgrading, the price diff is a little less stressing. Thanks for any feedback that you can give me.

Hi guys! I am looking to upgrade my HT setup by replacing my Kenwood Sovereign VR-5900 AVR with separates. After a good deal of research, I have chosen the Integra DTC-9.8 preamp and now have only to chose the amp. Outlaw 7700 fits in my price range, has plenty of rated power, balanced inputs, and a 5 year warranty. I have also read good things about Gemstone's Blue Diamond, which has similar specs but is more expensive. I want the amp to be a good match for the preamp and my speakers, but NOT to add to the inherent brightness in my KLF-30'S! I am not afraid to mix and match. I spoke with one of the guys at Gemstone yesterday and he told me that while the Blue Diamond is very neutral (not warm sounding), the Audyssey MultEQ Pro feature on the DCT-9.8 will soften the sound somewhat. I would love to hear of your experience with either of the above amps with large Klipsch mains. Any other suggestions for good pairings would be great too! I have read that NAD & HK work well with Klipsch, too. Budget constraints will eliminate many fine products, i am sure. Still, I appreciate any input. The plethora of products currently available makes the selection process both complex and arduous. Thanks for reading my post and for your help!

Thanks, jzoz! I will check it out. []

Fish, the Outlaw and Emotiva separates are what I initially asked about at the beginning of this thread. They look pretty good "on paper," but I was hoping to hear from another Klipsch owner who uses them and is pleased with the pairing. I mostly use my gear for home theater. My current setup does not do a great job with music, but I would love to change that! Thanks, ROakes

Vman, I don't see anything in my email [] What option are you referring to? Thanks, ROakes

Thanks to everyone for your advice! Wow...I looked at the Sunfire separates on their website and they look sweeeeet! Unfortunately, the price tag is approximately twice what I can afford []. So, what would be your next best choice? The new units must be HDCP compatible. Thanks again for all input!

Hi guys. I am researching good separates that will match well with my KLF-30s (mains), C-7 (center) and hopefully, JBL 4312a Control Monitors (previous mains, now surrounds). I have looked at Outlaw 990 + 770 and also at Emotiva DMC-1 + MPS-1 (or-2). Does anyone here have either of these combos? If not, any other suggestions? I have never had separates before, but am interested in upgrading from my current HT receiver, whenever the budget allows. I never use the receiver's tuner for radio since I have Sirius radio on my satellite. Thanks for all replies.

Dr. Who! Yes, your room acoustic measurement package is something that I would definately be interested in, providing the budget allows. Please let me know when it is available and how much it costs to rent. I am sooo excited about what I have learned on this forum that I placed my order today for a pair of GIK tri-traps. I will place them in the front corners. It is a start. Just wish I could get them today! Bryan Pape recommended that I do floor to ceiling tri-traps in the front corners, to begin with. Guess I will check the top of the tri-corners with my SPL meter after installation and decide whether to order another pair. Of course, room reflection is next. Can't wait to "hear" what happens when I start treating the room! I understand that too much absorption will make the room dead. No problem...makes perfect sense, even to a lay person. For now, I will start with some corner treatment, where I know a lot of LF energy is concentrated. Thanks again for your advice. I look forward to hearing from you when you have your room acoustic package ready.

Thanks again, Dr. Who! I have read a lot about room measurement since your last reply. Sounds like it is a great tool for identifying the acoustic problems in my room, however I haven't found instructions on how to do it without a laptop. Is there such a thing as Room Measurement for Dummies? Pictures might help! LOL. My PC (no laptop, unfortunately) is located in my kitchen. Slap back echo? Yes, definately. A hand clap or just walking through the room with hard sole shoes removes any doubt. As for the main seating position, it is the couch that is located about 4' from the windows. I took your advice and moved the mains out away from the TV as much as space allows. I checked my sub setting: it is crossed over @ 60Hz (and thank you for the link to the article on how to dial in a sub). Perhaps I should dial it down to 40Hz, as the freq response of my mains is 36Hz-20kHz +/-3dB. Rotating A/V equipment & furnishings? Not really an option. The A/V equipment fairly well fills up the corner it now occupies, with approximately 12 inches between the TV and mains. If anyone can chime in and point me toward some room measurement instructions for lay people, I would greatly appreciate it! What I have read thus far seems to be written for those with a great deal more knowledge about acoustics and measurement equipment than I currently posess, and has made me feel "technically challenged" in this area! The only measurement equipment I have is a RS SPL meter, which I used to set speaker volume. Thanks to all for your help! The question that I originally posted has returned much valuable information, and identified the most important and overlooked factor that affects my system performance. Undoubtedly, room treatment will be the best bang-for-the-buck investment that I can make in order to improve my listening pleasure! Now, to figure out how to do it...

Dr. Who, thank you for your reply. The den dimensions are 23'5"L X 18'5"W X 10'H. The foyer opening is 5' wide and the foyer dimensions are 10'5" X 4'. The hall dimensions are 8'7" X 3'2". The foyer and hall are open (no doors). All of the flooring in the den, foyer, and hall is wood. The ceiling is a regular texurized drywall?, I think (nothing fancy). Due to the bright and distracting light that floods into the den from the lights that surround the front door, I have been thinking that I need some kind of drape to cover the foyer opening, or blackout window treatment. This light is brighter than the TV screen and seriously interferes with daytime television watching. This weekend, I burned Ethan's test tones (from the RealTraps web site) on a CD and played them in my den. I walked around the den and foyer listening to the LF sound and was found the results to be dramatic! As predicted, the bass is very strong in the 3 corners where 2 walls and the ceiling meet. I also discovered that it is quite loud in the corner of the foyer where the opening to the hall is located. Of course, it is all but null at my primary listening position (no wonder I blew the driver in my SVS 20-39 shortly after receiving it!) Do you think that a heavy drape covering the foyer opening would attenuate the LF sound loss at that point in addition to eliminating the glaring light? The test tone CD is the only way I have to "test" my room. After using it this weekend, I believe the first thing I should do to address room acoustics is correct the LF loss in the corners of the room. Of course, I know that I must also address the reflected sound. I am currently looking at some of the commercial traps that are available. The price varies a great deal, but it appears that many of the manufacturers use either fiberglass or mineral wool for absorptive material. I have read that the acoustic properties of the two are nearly identical, so why pay sooo much more for a product like RealTraps, as opposed to the GIK or ATS Acoustic traps? Is there a particular product that you recommend, and why? Thank you in advance, for any advice or information you share.

Thanks for your reply Redtop. Where do you find attractive sound-absorbing panels?

Hi wuzzzer! Thanks for your reply, and you didn't sound rude at all. I am currently looking at the option of acoustic foam, but there is a lot out there to choose from. More imporant than that, I do not know WHERE it needs to be placed in my room. But, I have no doubt that room treatment is what I need to correct the echo-ey, boomy sound that I have. I also want to correct the low freq loss. I believe that I should not have to run my sub as loud as I do in order to hear it the way I want to. To answer your question, my mains are unevenly placed and may be too far from the wall. My sub occupies the corner, and my TV and mains are in front of that, catty-cornered and pointed toward the main listening position. This arrangement utilizes the longer axis of my 18.5' X 23.5" den and makes the main viewing position 13' from the TV. The center of the LF is 21" from the wall, and RF is 18" from the wall; neither speaker is parallel to the wall behind. The mains are toed in to the main listening position. Of course, I have a fireplace and two large permanent openings that take up valuable wall space and limit my options for room arrangement. Do you know of anyone on the forum or elsewhere who can advise me on acoustic materials and placement in my room? I will be happy to supply a diagram of my room.

I currently own a Kenwood Sovereign VR-5700 (got a deal on it from local dealer who was discontinuing carrying them). It is a great receiver, but I have had some problems with it so it has been shipped for repair and back once already. Now, it apprears to have a short which makes it necessary for me to wiggle my digital optical cable a little in order to get sound when I play a dvd (frustrating!) Of course, I tried changing the cable itself, but it didnt solve the problem. As far as room treatment goes, I am looking at installing some cellular blinds on the three windows in the back of the room. This would eliminate glare on my tv and HOPEFULLY also some of the reflected sound. Any other ideas? Probably, some of the problem with the room acoustics is due to the large permanent openings to the foyer and kitchen...cant change that! Thanks for your response!

Hi everyone. It has been quite a while since my last post and I have a new question. I am interested in upgrading my HT receiver and am seeking advice. My current 5.1 setup utilizes KLF 30s as mains, KLF C7 center, two JBL studio monitors (previously my mains) for surrounds, and a SVS 20-39 sub. The room is very bright...wood flooring and no damping window or wall treatments. I would appreciate some input from those with a similar setup who feel like they have found an excellent match between their HT receiver and this type of setup. Any other input/advice will also be greatly appreciated! Thanks, in advance.

Hi again guys! I haven't posted here in quite some time, because my HT setup hasn't changed much. However, I will soon purchase a 1080P tv and need some good suggestions regarding what to do with my KLF C7. For years, it has happily rested on top of my Toshiba 56" RPTV (which has ample room for it). The new tv will be a Sony KDS-55A2000, the top of which isn't suitable for supporting the large and heavy C7. The tv stands that I have seen on the internet all have shelves that are too small for the C7. Also, the center channel speaker stands that I have been able to find are not designed to hold such weight (I am guessing about 40lb). I really don't want to mount the speaker on the wall above the tv because I am not sure that I will not want to change the arrangement of my room at some point. ANY advise/suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks for reading my post. []

Thanks a lot for your suggestions! I will look into them.

Thank you for your suggestion. It sounds like an affordable option that may resolve the problem. Any recommendations for the amp?

Hi again guys! I have previously been trying to remedy the unsatisfactory bass performance from my 30's when playing music. I know that they should produce some kick a** bass! Polarity, positioning and phase have all been considered as potential causes of the unsatisfactory performance, without remedy. I recently wondered if playing my cds on a cd player rather than a dvd player would produce better music. I purchased a cd player to check this out and find that I prefer the music from the cd player to that from the dvd player. The CD player produces smoother, less harsh sounding music (the bass may also be improved) I am now wondering if greater improvement could be achieved by upgrading my HT receiver, which is the question of this post. So what do you guys think? And if the receiver could make a great deal of difference, then which one would be best matched to my big 30's? I have done some reading at this forum and find that some people prefer Denon, finding it less tinny and harsh than Yamaha is with klipsch speakers. Interestingly, my current HT receiver is a Yamaha. I am anxiously awaiting your input! Thanks, guys. My System: KLF-30s main KLF-C7 center JBL 4312As surrounds SVS 20-39PC Plus subwoofer Yamaha HTR 5250 HT receiver Yamaha CDC 685 CD Player Toshiba 56H80 16:9 HD ready

Reference my post of today calling for more bass from my KLF30s...wow, i just reread all of the answers to my post. Thank you guys very much for sharing your knowledge. Did I get it backward in assuming that more space between the wall and the rear of the speaker (thus the passive radiator) means MORE bass because the speaker can then move the air more efficiently??? Because one of the responses said that the closer the speakers are to the wall, the greater the bass will be! How far from the wall should they be for forceful, punchy bass? I recently added an excellent sub, by the way...an SVS 20-39PC. Very tasty...and I know it is everything that I want in my sub. Perhaps I am too close to all of my speakers. How large is YOUR HT room (that would be my den) and how far away from your speakers is your listening position? My System: KLF-30s main KLF-C7 center JBL 4312As surrounds SVS 20-39PC Plus subwoofer Yamaha HTR 5250 HT receiver Toshiba 56H80 16:9 HD ready