Aj72

"....or maybe you are just running your subs hot and when you turn them off it seems as if the bass is lacking?" This is what I think to be the culprit. I do like my bass and do run hot around +14. I have dual eighteen inch subs which would skew anyone's judgement once turning them off. I think it's possibly just a case of bass addiction here. Definitely no loose panels. I run a short jumper wire from the two red's and two black's for each speaker with a Banana plug connected to the bottom corresponding color with the speaker wire then connecting to corresponding color binding post on amplifier. Red to Red (short jumper wire connects two binding post on speaker) then bottom Red binding post Speaker to Red binding post on Amplifier for corresponding channel. Same for black. Sorry OP didn't mean to hijack thread.

Hmmmm. Sounds like you guys opened up a can of worms for me or I opened them up for myself! I replaced both sets of woofers with Crites woofers and if I was just using the KLF's without a sub I'd feel very lacking in the bass department. I thought it was because my subs made it a night and day difference but sounds like you could be onto something. I'm happy all the same because the subs do nearly all the work but got me thinking. might try my KG 5.5's up front to see if they have any more bass without subs on. I do have a fairly good appetite for bass and maybe the preamp settings causing this? I run large setting and disable sub but not a huge difference to when set to small? I may leave it if the KG 5.5's yield a similar result and try my old receiver which I know was fine.

I cross over KLF-30's at 80Hz and subs at 80Hz also. I really don't know why, perhaps it's because my subs do such a great job but without the subs on, running the KLF's large the bass seems to be lacking. For two twelve inch woofers per speaker there doesn't seem to be much punch. Don't get me wrong I still love them. I don't know about the KLF 20's but 80Hz with sub would be my suggestion.

I had the KSW 300 which is from the same series but it's 15 inch instead of 12. I tried for parts but they told me discontinued and amp parts not available anymore. I really liked the KSW 300 and the 200 from that period. Served you well too by the sounds of it but parts may be very hard to come by. Plenty of great options nowadays if needing to replace.

Hey Guys Ive got a pair of old Tangent Klipsch 300's which I dragged out tonight. The tweeter in the right speaker doesn't work anymore. I swapped the left tweeter in which yielded the same result. Does this mean I have to replace the crossover? How much would this set me back. Is it difficult to do? Thanks AJ

Hi Keegan A great buy at $30 that's giving them away! I think a T-Amp would do the job nicely you don't need much to power those and should come in about your budget or less.

Yes Orbit shifter is the last step in my sub journey I believe.

JTR Orbit Shifter if the budget suits. Horn loaded and upgrading shouldn't ever be a problem again.

Aaah bloody Ipad went flat as I was about to send message! Another thing Ive noticed is a faint buzzing in the right main, right rear and right rear back. Wasn't there before either. If Im honest I can sit down like tonight and watch a movie without noticing any of the issues with the unit. But they do bother me because they shouldn't be there. If I sell it I will have to disclose these things. Worries me that it just goes back in, they replace something and comes back no better but maybe worse as they didnt know the source of problem. Feels like chasing tail. I will have to think some more about this......

Thanks. I did purchase the two woofers from Bob Crites.

You know this hobby is a funny thing. Almost always an upgrade takes a bit of work to make it just that. I bought these KLF30's not long ago but they are at the moment a step sideways and possibly even a tiny step back. I am yet to buy anything that was an immediate upgrade in my system without a bit of work to make it just that. It's neverending. I do feel however that I have all the right speakers and I'm now just fine tuning to get that last little bit of sweet harmony. The funny thing is before the KLF 30's I had that harmony with my all KG series HT setup. But I always wanted the KLF 30's for years after hearing a lot of good things about them. My system was really singing before but I had to scratch the itch when these came up for a bargain. I have replaced a couple of woofers already, the tweeters (this did provide immediate upgrade so is an exception) and I'm hoping the titanium midrange will do the trick and give that final bit of balance. If it doesn't I can go back to how it was. Maybe the KG's will always match a bit better as that would make sense because the KLF is a different series? I will definitely keep the KLF 30 for two channel either way. At this stage although Ive read much about crossover work being very beneficial I'm hoping to leave it as is. What did you mean by "only available for service not upgrade"? Can you not buy these parts direct? I have sent an email to Klipsch support enquiring about price and how to get them. I live in Australia so postage is a killer. Are you referring to better diaphragms for the 12inch driver/woofer or does the driver mean something else? I didnt see a response to how easy is it to change the stock midrange over to the titanium? Thanks.

Thanks Gary, I still only pickup problems on the Radiohead CD's (on three of them). I've decided that I'll be chasing my tail if I take it back again only to find they couldn't fix it. So unless I notice anything with other music I will put up with it. I did give them the CD to play with the unit but on picking it up from the technicians no one could tell me if they noticed it. I may make a phone call to see if they can confirm whether there was anything unusual. I now need to move on and enjoy what Ive got rather than letting a few minor nuisances spoil the rest of the ride. Thanks for all the advice.

Im looking at replacing the midrange in my KLF 30's. Is the Klipsch titanium midrange suitable for this model? I have changed the tweeters to Crites titanium tweeters is the midrange as easy to change? How do I order the parts? Thanks. AJ

Update. Took the unit back and they had it for five weeks! Apparently got put on a shelf and forgotten about despite my regular calls. Frustrating. As far as the crackling goes no change. Still just as bad. They put a new DSP in the unit but wish I never took it back as Im now wondering if it sounds as good as it used to. Scratched volume knob to add to everything. Sound like a whingeing perfectionist but really Im not. Not sure whether to take it back and say not happy at all. I really liked the sound of this preamp but would be lucky to replace this unit through dealer as they no longer have it on sale. Has a further two years warranty. Any suggestions?

I was recently at the same fork in the road your at now. Separates or new receiver? You will get many debates on this topic. I will just tell you my experience and it is right for me but someone else will have an opposing and probably not incorrect view. I went for separates after having an 80 watt per channel (5 channels) receiver for many years which gave me great pleasure and owed me nothing. I ran Klipsch KG5.5 as mains in a HT setup. I bought a seven channel power amp (185 watts/channel) cost $1500 used. At the same time I purchased a preamp ( $1200 demo three year warranty) and the difference in sound was amazing. Not saying I couldn't achieve the same result with a new receiver as I didnt audition any. My old receiver used as a preamp with the poweramp does also sound a lot better as I tested for interest. I then happened upon a set of KLF30 speakers which Ive replaced a couple of split woofers and fitted Crites titanium tweeters to. My original KG5.5's are now rears. Very very impressive speakers the KLF 30's. No need to change anything for a long time if ever in the speaker dept. In answer to your question it will possibly cost a bit more to go the separates path but the difference for me is substantial. My speakers no longer yell at me when loud with increased detail, imaging, and clarity. Not sure if the difference between 90 and 140 watts will give any sort of discernible difference but the brand you choose probably will.