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8 minutes ago, Tizman said:
Good move richieb. I almost did the same a few dozen pages back, but jumped back in because it's simultaneously annoying and entertaining. I'm feeling like it's time to permanently bail as well. No beginner in their right mind would read through this ridiculous thread anyway, and there is enough good info in here to counter the dumbness. Enjoy your Pass gear. It's excellent stuff.
This thread is not for beginners it is for the entertainment of forum members. If you don't lose sight of that nor take OD to seriously it is great entertainment sprinkled with good things from other people.
DEFLECT ALERT! So why are you not telling us your recommended beginner's basic, pragmatic, and affordable system components?
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DEFLECT ALERT! So why are you not telling us your recommended beginner's basic, pragmatic, and affordable system components?
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Yup starting for me was an Onkyo 8050 and an $800.00 La Scala. Whole shooting match for $1,000.00 and I was in heaven.
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2 hours ago, ODS123 said:
We are both just as self confident in our positions. ..But one big differences b/w the two, aside from the obvious, is that I attempt to provide to beginners some degree of scientific rigor to support my advice. Advice which is basic, pragmatic, and affordable.
So please describe your recommended beginner's basic, pragmatic, and affordable system components. If I were looking what should I buy?
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Hickory, Black Locust or Oak for firewood. Walnut is crummy to burn. Cut some Black Locust today for the "major" winter storm heading east.
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1 hour ago, Deang said:
I prefer linear room treatments.
I prefer set. My wife does too as it is set this here and set that there. I get to set down in the room at times so that is another advantage of set.
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1 hour ago, Deang said:
The best sounding system would be $5000 worth of room treatments, a pair of Heresys and an AVR.
Linear or set?
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1 minute ago, ODS123 said:
Couldn't agree more and would urge beginners to give serious thought to this as well.
You seem hung up on beginners. Why do you think you are qualified to determine what beginners should do? There is a difference between having a conversation about things you have done and why, and holding yourself out as a Guru to be followed with all other opinions discarded unless they agree with you. Your experience as far as I can tell is limited at best.
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Cutting wood begins tomorrow.
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1 hour ago, jimjimbo said:
I didn't know you lived close to Richieb ....
So that's his name?
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1 hour ago, glens said:
Okay. Staying with veneers in use is a valid goal. I was unaware they'd used red oak. That invariably has to have the pores filled for finish work. Not to say it can't look good but it's a lot of trouble. And the pores are still visible, just not surface voids when filled.
Agree on the northern growth. Shorter seasons...
Well it looks like Red Oak to me with a coarser grain than the White Oak I am used to and yes pores.
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2 hours ago, avguytx said:
So what is the dispersion difference in this type versus what comes stock on the Crites CT-120 tweeters? I'd love to have a pair of these or the aluminum for my Belle's if there was a notable difference. Sad thing would be, you'd not be able to see them behind the grills.
I like the walnut better, myself. Definitely a solid wood to work with.
PM sent.
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39 minutes ago, glens said:
Yep. Red oak is better suited to pallets and trailer beds. Definitely not furniture grade material. Anything "white" is better for what you're doing, though those varieties will vary, too. Have you tried cherry or apple?
My thought is to stay with wood used by Klipsch for veneer. I think part of the problem with this oak is it was grown in the Tennessee area. Growth rings are quite large here and things grow fast. The same tree from up north is denser and has a fine wood grain since growing conditions are not as good.The again there are different Red Oaks so I might just have to learn to judge wood better. I am going to try White Oak also though and see if with stain it will match veneer too.
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Here is one out of Red Oak which is e real problem child to cut well. Now I know why Klipsch veneer has so many little holes because it is just what Red Oak does. I have to figure out where to get some with closer grain or try another Oak altogether. I kind of like the overall appearance with the oak more.
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I was out in my shop today and this weird little dude showed up. He had a pointed hat with stars and moons on it and spoke a little strangely. So I let him ramble on for a bit and this thing appeared on my vice.
Funny how wood cuts. This Walnut is a charm and I can't get a single Red Oak one to cut without some splintering. I think the answer will be a down cutting end mill and not an up cutting if I can find one. These flanges where the screws to cabinet go are thicker than the aluminum ones and the tapped holes are a bit deeper for additional pull out strength. All in all I am very pleased with these and will be making them starting tomorrow.
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9 hours ago, Marvel said:
Here's what you all need...
That comes with typhoon insurance right?
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1 hour ago, HOGFAN said:
Dave,
You are spot on! I’ve had Forte II’s, Cornwall’s and LaScalas......and they all take a back seat to the KP 450’s! If the 456’s are better than the 450’s, I may need to pick these up.
Hogfan
Well how often do you see these come up? There will always be Vintage every week if you are willing to drive to buy. I drove 1600+ miles round trip to get my last batch of 456's and I figure that may never happen again. At the very least you can wait years to get this caliber of speaker so you snooze you lose.
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6 hours ago, rockhound said:
@Dave A you would know!
It is a 506.
For those of you who have wondered about Pro gear your jaw will drop when you hear these for the first time. Seriously though don't go if you want to hang on to your Cornwalls or KHorns. It would be better for you if you never hear these.
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3 hours ago, HOGFAN said:
Jerry is a great guy! I've bought and sold multiple items from/to him over the past couple of years.
I've been downsizing from the pro audio gear, but now giving this some thought. I have the KP-450's.....very sweet speakers! I'm contemplating.....
Hogfan
The KPT-456's are better. Get them and sell the KP-450's for what you paid on the 456's. These older woofers are also capable of going lower than the newer smooth coned ones will. The ribbed cones are better than the smooth ones.
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Anyone near these and wondering best jump on them. I have had six sets from the same source and all were in great shape and sound superb. They will not last long at all if he goes to EBay. Jump in your vehicle and go get these bad boys. If you have never heard any of these you have no idea how good they are.
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21 minutes ago, Khornukopia said:
My Klipschorns measure fairly good, and sound bigger and better than another pair of speakers that measure flatter, in the same room.
I assume that is an android smart phone so what ap are you using?
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That is right. The DE120 and 110 are the ones for this.
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1 hour ago, Tizman said:
A speaker that makes a crappy recording sound good is not a good speaker.
A speaker that makes a crappy recording sound good is MAGICAL and I want one. 😀
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I believe he has quit
Advice for Beginners - consider this test from an audio club
in General Klipsch Info
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And your recommended beginner's basic, pragmatic, and affordable system components are????
Well here we go. Up early and much to my delight the Klipsch Onion staff is on the job. 🤣