Grizzog
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Forte
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And sale back on. The buyer didn't show up.
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Weren't the older cabinets plywood, rather than MDF?
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Here's the setup. Ignore the NAD amp, that's for some other speakers.
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Haven't listened long yet, but initial impressions: these are impressive.
They are warm and don't have the brightness the RP series can have. I don't understand how they got so much bass from these. And, to me, they are voiced like the palladiums. Seriously good bookshelves.-
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The Sixes.
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I think you've posted these a number of times.
Location?
You'll get more interest with additional pictures, condition, and description.
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Forte
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Sale pending.
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Awesome room!
I'll put in my vote for black as well. Would look great in there!
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Forte
in Garage Sale
Have you tried a vacuum cleaner on the dust cap?
I haven't. I got the extra radiator and never installed it. These were used in a bedroom so they weren't played all that much so I hadn't gotten around to it. -
Forte
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Had to look twice to find the ring...
GLWS
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Forte
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Forte I in walnut.
$650
Located in Terryville, CT
Great condition. One small ring as shown in pictures.
Consecutive serial numbers.
One dust cap of one rear radiator is pushed in, however, these come with an additional radiator in great condition.
Crites titanium tweeters and full crossovers. Also comes with original tweeter diaphragms and original packaging.
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Happy Birthday, Roy!
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I don't think I'll be able to make it. This came up faster than I thought!
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I've owned both and still have fortes. It really depends what you're looking for, but my vote would be fortes.
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Nice! GLWS.
I do have to ask though, what is that sub??
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So how do they sound??
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Not too far from me. I'd like to hear more too.
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How about just a short trip across the country?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192100774722
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I've enjoyed the titanium diaphragms I've put in the tweeters of Quartets, Fortes, and KG4s. I've never changed out the mids.
When implemented properly, I think the metal diaphragms work well. The aluminum used in the Altec drivers to me sounds a bit softer and I do appreciate that. I don't completely care for the titanium in the RF-7II - that actually sounds metallic to me, but could probably be a combination of things.
I wonder if someone did an A/B test on driver material, how many times I could get it right. Part of what we perceive is psychosomatic - your visual perception or prior knowledge will play a part. Floyd Toole had shown this in blind tests. A speaker that LOOKS like it should sound good, had received better ratings when the listener could see it (obviously not always the case, but certainly interesting). I'm guessing the same may happen when we know the material used.
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Tone controls/l-pads on speakers seem to be pretty much only on studio monitors these days. "Audiophiles" have this thought that any change to the signal is blasphemy. They'd rather change amps and speakers than ever touch a tone control.
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There's physics involved, not even discounting time domain discrepancies. I'm glad that these mean absolutely nothing for sound.
What I am saying, and what I gathered from Roy's post, was pointing to a 700hz vs 600hz horn and automatically saying the 600hz is better is inaccurate.
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Just now, jason str said:
The model 19 was not even Altec lansing's best model let alone one of the best speakers ever made.
We'll have to disagree on whether the 19 was one of the best...you don't see people asking about "upgraded" drivers on those or horn changes.
I would be interested in what you think is their best model.
As far as crossover point, I think Roy mentioned that just pointing that because one horn has a lower point means absolutely nothing for sound.
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So what is the crossover point from woofer to mid on the Forte III? Seems the Cornwall and H III are higher than older Heritage which may not provide the blend. If the Forte III is able to get the crossover back down around 600hz, it'd be worth a listen though Ti pushed that low may be annoying (to me) though.
When you start trying to push woofer to horn transitions up much higher than that, I find way too many discontinuities between the horn sound and DR woofers to have a satisfying lower crossover point.
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" Forte III will be using titanium though, so I'd say that's a pretty good indication of whether they are worth it. "
I'm sure Roy designed the network to take into account the (different) response of the Ti vs the phenolic diaphragms.
I'm positive he did. I was saying it is a good indication of the titanium being a good choice.
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Forte III
in General Klipsch Info
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Maybe you have a rare gem there. The specs state MDF and all the extended-heritage I've ever opened up are that way.