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I'm very happy with the nad 748 I just purchased. Sounds way better than the denon I demo'd.

I have 2 pairs of these. One pair in a 5 channel system in the theatre, and another pair in my bedroom 2 channel system.Both cherry. Have no idea why they discontinued them except for the price maybe? Another set of speakers I will never part with.

Love music! everything from talking heads,frank sinatra, stones, james taylor,metallica, and everything in between. My interest in the gear is just to make all of these wonderful sounds sound as best as possible. The music is eternal. The gear always changes.

Thank you all for your help. Particularly rebuy for pointing me towards the Nad. I ordered a T-48 v2. I set it up this afternoon. I love it! Originally bought it thinking the wattage looked weak, but if nothing else, it would make a good pre-amp. Well after a couple hours, I can say there should be no need for an external amp. It's pushing a pair of klf20, klfc7,and a pair of rb75. Loud and clear, no where near the top of the dial !! Nothing like a new toy that's better than the old toy you were mourning over. Actually, that applies to things other than toys also, but I digress. It does have an archaic osd, and not all the bells and whistles, but I never used them anyway. But what it lacks there it makes up for in sound! That said, I'm heading back to my new toy. Thanks!

Thanks rebuy, because of you I just ordered a nad 748 to see how that works. Too many hours doing research. I'm so bored of reading and research, i just want my music back!

I've had my klf20's for 16 years now. I would not get rid of them for any reason! The best i've ever heard

Thanks wvu80. I' m leaning towards the Marantz. What's to lose, I can always return it. Gotta love amazon prime. The reviews for it both on amazon and crutchfield look promising. Thank you again.

I've narrowed down my next choice to either a marantz 5010 or a pioneer elite sc 91. Any thoughts

Willand, I live in Melbourne Florida now, also known as Melboring., for the past 22 years.

Willand , tell me about it. Do you have their first concert dvd? It is also a reference disc. Those guys are task masters!

Willand, No not san diego, but Steely Dan. Philadelphia transplant actually. Love all kinds of music, but Steely Dan is my all time all around favorite. Theirs were always the discs I took with me to demo speakers . Long live Becker and Fagan. Probably the the best recorded albums to find a reference point.

Sorry to post again,but another thought. The klf 20 is a peculiar beast. Prior to the denon 3801, I demo' d , at the time, onkyos flagship model and it sounded horrible. I wish there were real audio stores around and not just Best Buy.

I'm also looking into the Outlaw Audio receiver.

thanks for all your help guys. The denon is packed up and on its way to ups tomorrow for a return, I've spent alot of time fooling with it to no avail.. I'm currently doing research. I'm looking at the pioneer elite sc series, yamaha aventage , and even a plain old fashioned yamaha rs700 stereo receiver. It's funny, the yamaha 2 channel receiver weighs more at 2X100 watts than their receiver that is 7X100 watts. I don't want to go the seperates route unless I have to. I also noticed that my 3801 was made in Japan, whereas the 3100 is made in china. Don't know if that makes a difference? But like I said, my cheap Sherwood sounds way better than the denon 3100, Denon is off my list. I can't say it enough, but THANK YOU All for your input. My friends with their sony/bose setups think I'm a lunatic; It's nice to know I have friends here in the asylum!

wvu80, I actually did post here years ago, but couln't remember my password so had to start over. To answer your question, yes , I did have it in pure stereo mode. It's just no where near as good as my previous Denon. My use is probably 90% stereo and 10% HT. I just like the flexibility that the avr's offer compared to the stereo units I've seen. Thank you all for your help.

There's also not really anywhere to demo things anymore

I did set up the audessy,. However everything sounds so shrill and high. I went into the internal eq and took everything all the way down. Still bad. I even drug the speakers(which is not an easy feat) into my other room and hooked them up to an old sherwood 2 channel receiver I have and they sound much better. It just seams to me that everything is about gadgets and not sound quality these days. I should probably just go 2 channel receiver, or amp for my uses; but with the new technology,I feel I'm getting phased out. At some point I will need hdmi inputs and such.

I need help! I've been mostly a lurker here for the last 15 years and now I need some advice. Long story short... 15 years ago for my 30th birthday I bought a Denon avr 3801 and a pair of Klipsch klf20's . I was in heaven!!!! My Denon finally bit the dust. I replaced it with a new Denon(avr-x3100) that after 3 days I am sending back. I mostly listen to 2 channel but like the flexibility of hdmi and all the new stuff coming down the road. In my opinion the new Denon sounded horrible. It seems the sound quality went down while the features I'll never use went up. Does anyone have any advice on what current avr might go well with these speakers?