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I would have 100% jumped on this for my center channel LSi split top with the hopes that i'd one day get k402's for the left and right channels. Unfortunately, I've exhausted my spending funds on the ALK universal's 2 days ago.
This hobby seems to be all about timing.-
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For someone like me(a newb) with no knowledge on active set up or biamping or EQing, if i wanted to put a 402 or 510(both nearing 1k in price i assume?) on top of my LSi doghouse, i would need an active crossover like the Xilicia XP-4080($1k+) and i'd need separates to bi amp which i also don't have. I just use a Marantz SR7007 AVR and i watch movies and listen to music and play games all through that and my gaming PC.
I'm completely turned off by the idea of spending several thousand or more when i'd much rather spend the 1k or so on the horns+driver pair and whatever it would cost for a pair of passive 2 way crossover networks. But, there are no passive crossovers that i could use the k510 or 402 on my LSi bass bin, correct? The idea of a KPT-904-N plugging right into my AVR and enjoying is much more appealing to someone like me. Spending big money on separates and or active crossovers etc doesn't appeal to me until i find a dream set of speakers that i know i'll keep for the long haul and then i can build my gear up around it over time.
I guess i'm not smart enough to figure out how to do active set ups but im smart enough to see the price for wood veneer and aesthetics doesn't equal the price of a plain black pro speaker that can outperform the home speaker. -
10 hours ago, Maximus89 said:
Quick opinion since we were talking about La Scalas, would it be better for me to do 2 front LSi and 2 rear LSi, OR 3 front LSi and 1 rear surround LSi? (i have 4 and not likely to get the 5th any time soon)
Anyone? I know the best way is to just move it and test it out but these guys are heavy and then having to move the tv and tv stand and gear and rearrange everything. It's a pain in the ***.
Im just curious how surround for movies would sound with 3 front and 1 rear surround. I'm assuming all surround sound information will be sent to the 1 surround speaker?
now what if I wanted to use 2 more KLF-10s as rear surrounds? I know I could do the KLF-10 as surround and then the single LSi as 6th channel, but for surround music, I would want the LSi to be sent the surround information, not the KLF-10s.
So would connecting only a single LSi in one of the left or right connections for surround and then 2 KLF 10s as what would essentially be the 6th and 7th channel rears work? I would only use the 6th and 7th channels for movies with 7 channels otherwise I'd just go direct mode for 5 channel movies and tv and music which no sound would come out of the 6th and 7th channel KLF-10s
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Quick opinion since we were talking about La Scalas, would it be better for me to do 2 front LSi and 2 rear LSi, OR 3 front LSi and 1 rear surround LSi? (i have 4 and not likely to get the 5th any time soon)
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1 hour ago, Discgolfer123 said:
I have several models in the heritage line up if you want local audition.
Tim
You have the Forte III?
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5 hours ago, moriceman said:
Maximus89,
Buy one of these La Scala's and make yours a Cinco slam on perfection! I'll buy the other one and I even deliver ;-). You don't need a split for your center. Just to tell ya, my whole getup is black, so I'm going to have to love her the way she comes or do some minor modifications to the finish.
https://houston.craigslist.org/ele/d/klipsch-la-scala-loudspeakers/6304327059.html
Let me know, 'cause I'm ready to leave the wife and kids for another Klipsch road trip. (short. 1 day. gotta be home to make supper).
moriceman
I appreciate it but don't have the funds as of now and though I know it doesn't need to be black or split, I at least prefer it black and near the same year as my current LSi so it doesn't have the metal horn.
You should just go for it and sell the other one which should be no problem. Good luck and thanks again!
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6 hours ago, CECAA850 said:
Let's see. Cush is out but honestly he should have been using a larger dose of PED's as he didn't look that sharp to begin with. All three tight ends are in concussion protocol which normally is a large part of their passing game. They're best O-lineman is still holding out and paying over 500k a game not to be there. Watt and Clowney got 2 COMBINED tackles last week then Watt dislocated a finger. How many active receivers are still healthy, 2 or 3? It's not looking good for the good guys.
Awful first half even with the Watson TD run bc we had nothing going and he can't save us every game with big runs. The more he relies on that, the more teams will adapt and the more turnovers we'll have imo. At least the D showed up this half.
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35 minutes ago, Max2 said:
Go buy these right now. In your area as well I think. Price is very right and with the tubes in the background, the owner probably took care of them.
https://houston.craigslist.org/ele/d/klipsch-cornwall-ii/6304345890.html
More value in your area.
https://houston.craigslist.org/ele/d/klipsch-la-scala-loudspeakers/6304327059.html
Looks like the same seller. Great prices!
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9 minutes ago, Frzninvt said:
I would take four La Scala's over a pair of FIII's any day of the week. Splits are even better since you can tweak the top sections as shown above. Just add a fifth and a couple of very capable subs and you will have one hell of a home theater. I run a 9.2 all Heritage system and can easily best the local theaters for detail and clarity and volume if I chose to.
Of course i get that, but space is limited(i have the back LSi connected perfectly snug in a closet though haha) + new crossovers for both pairs starts to get costly, then add to that a single LS for center with all the same parts for perfect timbre match. I guess at minimum, i could just get 3 new networks for LCR and then have the back surround LS as stock.
In all honesty, other than space limitations, i kind of want to just settle in with a new speaker and not have to drive myself crazy with ideas of modifications/upgrades. The itch is a disease!
Conversation with myself every day:
Crites A? A/4500 + CT120 tweeters? AA? AL-3? AlK universal? DeanG?
Don't worry about that yet! Find a single La Scala center first!
But the AL xover sucks and everyone says so!
Fastrac La Scala mid? A-55G driver? Change the K-77 for Alks eliptrac hf? Change all K-43's to Crites?
Upgrade 1 pair and then do the next pair much later? All at once?
Nah! Go 2 way!
I do want to stick with Klipsch made, but dude, you don't have enough space for the k402 Jubescala, just forget about it!
DO IT!
What about the K510? It would fit perfectly into the HF section of the LSi split!
Yes....yes it would..."the little horn that could"
Those mumps are beautiful.
Wait...but i don't know anything about EQ'ing and i can't afford to go active xover on top of it...so forget it!
Sell the Chorus II to help with funds!
NO! NEVER! Could i? Should i? My precioussssss..
Just do the K402 for your L/R and the K510 for the center and leave the surrounds as stock!
Just do it you fat hobbit!
I feel like Gollum and i'm going mad. I would love to just sit down with some Forte III's using my Chorus II as surrounds and just obsess over finding a suitable center for the FIII and call it for the next 5+ years and just enjoy the music and movies without just starring at my speakers and wondering what upgrade or modification to do next.-
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Just now, dtel said:
Jubilee, I have never heard anything better for many times the price.
I understand there not for everyone, they are big, not as pretty as some but as far as sound, very hard to beat.
To compare what we listen to here, MWM/402, very close to a jubilee. IMO....... Cornwall lll, Heresy l and ll, LaScala, RB-75........... What we have alot of listening time with (friends), Jubilees, 396's, Khorns, Forte lll.
What about a Jubescala?
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1 hour ago, dtel said:
Personally my all time favorite of any speaker I have ever heard is also designed by Roy, the Chief of Boneheads.
Which speaker would that be?
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That's a good idea(hex head). I have rustoleum black spray paint I used on the horns that I can quickly paint the screws again, but the hex head might be a really nice subtle change, though i wonder if the hex heads are too fat and protrude from the horn oddly. Do they make flatter ones?
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1 minute ago, No.4 said:
It's hard to find good copper fasteners. I have used some from plumbing fittings on a few projects with good results. Have you considered painting the horns copper? I have a pic somewhere of some black RF7II with horn painted copper that looks amazing. I have some copper Spraiy paint out in the shop that is very convincing. Just a thought.
I maybe have seen those. Were they the ones that you turned into a 3 way with a fostex tweeter? If the ones i'm thinking of, i thought they were too "orange." I want to find the closest match i can find when i look at it side by side with a Klipsch copper cone or badge or like the ones used on the new Amp knobs and screws
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14 hours ago, Staples said:
Howdy,
I am very interested in the Forte IIIs but cannot afford them at the moment. What I can afford are a pair of Forte IIs in oiled oak, which I picked up a few weeks ago. I don't mind oiled oak, but I prefer the distressed oak and white grills of the III.
My question is, does anyone have thoughts on how to recreate the look of the new distressed oak speakers if the starting point is oiled oak?
I have little practical experience with finishes and stains, but I'm wondering if a chemical stripper to get out any oil followed by a gray stain is all that is needed.
Thoughts?
Sorry i took over the thread without contributing. I think for the distressed oak look, a gray finish on the stripped or sanded down raw oak could give the look you want. Verethane makes a "weathered gray" finish. Also as mentioned, they make a weathered accelerator as well.
For the grills:
Several off white cloth options here:
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3 minutes ago, Ceptorman said:
I thought the copper (gold) colored screws were a nice touch, just a subtle difference of color sets it off.
I agree that the lighter silver grill cloth would look excellent.
Thanks but I think it's disctracting. Too many screws. Also some of the screws have a different head so they look different. Here's a closer photo
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Thanks. I plan on going back to make the screws black again. The idea was to add a touch of copper, but it came out too gold looking. I should instead try and paint the magnets into a copper color. I really liked the new stuff i saw at CES and how that guy kept describing it as hand made with little copper screws holding it in place etc. I liked the idea of that and that's what i wanted. Too bad i can't find a proper copper to match. Everything is too rose gold looking or way too dark.
I need to look into that silver grill like the matte blk FIII have. That would also look amazing on my all black LSi splits. -
If you ever buy the FIII and dislike it, i'll trade ya 4 La Scala Industrial Splits. About as minimalist as it gets and you got 4 perfect corners for a quad set up
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I also really wanted to go check out the FIII and asked about anywhere in Houston having them, but no luck.
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I too wondered this. I've always loved walnut for anything Klipsch, and was forced to go all black to match 2 pairs of LSi's, but that distressed oak with white grill cloth looks so sexy, I want to do it to my Chorus II's one day if I keep them for the long haul. Would have to start with a new veneer. My old veneer is beat up and I already spent MANY hours on the CII first in the beginning of the year to strip the original black oak and finish with a Danish Walnut Oil and then AGAIN recently to turn them back to black!
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I too need a square magnet k-77 for my LSi in case someone has a pair but didn't want to just sell a single to Teaman (sorry to crash your thread @teaman)
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12 hours ago, Full Range said:
Borrow your friends DeanG crossovers to try on your La Scala & see if that is the model that makes them sing in your listening room
Although my La Scala are highly modified - I found similar listening issues - so I custom made my crossovers to suit my speakers, equipment and room dynamics
I missed 2 opportunities to buy used AA's with the idea that i could send both pairs to Al and he could turn them into Super AA's for $99/pair but i was scared away by his note that he has the right to reject based on condition of the used AA. Both pairs that were on eBay looked too old already so i didn't want to take the chance. I figured a $400 investment(plus selling the AL's) for 2 pairs of xovers is better than paying $400+ for 1 pair of xovers. Maybe i'm wrong and a higher quality custom xover for my 2ch LSi is better for now and then later when i can afford, i'll get the same into my surround LSi's(1 of which has a bad tweeter anyway..i have a simply speakers.com replacement diaphragm but i'm not sure if that will sound right or i should find an original k-77.) -
2 hours ago, Davecv41 said:
Three days ago you posted that one of your K-77 tweeters is bad. That sounds like it's probably the reason that you're hearing white noise coming out of it.
That's for one of the ones I'm usIng as surrounds. I'm talking about the front for 2ch music
i have 4 total LSi splits from 89 with AL xovers in a quad set up
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I REALLY hate to say this, but....i'm just really not enjoying these 89 LSi's ever since i heard my pal Craig's 89 LS but with DeanG(If his name is Dean Wescott, where did the G come from?) crossovers. When i heard his LS next to mine, mine sounded like the tweeters barely had any sound other than white noise(?) coming out and the mid's sounded like the singer was singing while covering their mouth while his LS sounded like the singer removed the hands from their mouth and everything was clear and the tweeters were crystal clear as well(i never even knew the tweeters could have that much sound coming from them, even from my CII which i only hear little cymbals and more noise) .
His LS ruined me. I can't shake it off and just enjoy my LSi ever since. Today, i listened to my Chorus II again and while the soundstage is smaller, i thoroughly enjoy listening to them. I'm no audiophile and very new to all of this, so i'm not saying the CII is better than the LS, but my CII are better than these LSi with stock 89 AL crossovers.
Is the AL crossover really THAT bad that i can't enjoy it or is it b/c the caps are in need of replacement/upgrade or is it b/c my ears heard what a custom crossover upgrade can do for the same speaker with the same parts other than mine having the K43 driver? Placebo/Nocebo effect?
As of now, i'd have to sell the Chorus II to fund 2 pairs of crossover upgrades for 4 LSi and i'm not sure i want to do that. There's so many directions to go in and i'm currently lost. For my smaller space, sell all 4 LSi and Chorus II to fund Forte III's? Never even heard them before and the interest(other than aesthetics) is based off of a few posters here who say they loved them more than the KHorns( are they homers? Or legit?). I've only heard KHorns with Deans crossovers and they were amazing so i'm curious about the FIII fans POV. I've read about K510's for Jubescala set up, but i dont want to go active xover and i on't even know the price or availability of the k510.
What to do, what to do?
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I beleive those are zener diodes.....for tweeter protection? IIRC.