M_Klipsches
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18 hours ago, Wayne Ingraham said:
Agreed and thanks, so happy I can hopefully give them a good home where they will sing again.
Bad ***. While I have DJ'd as a hobby (mostly for friends and nonprofits I'm connected to), it's been with speakers that would get me laughed out of here. That said, these speakers have shown me I am a complete noob. So forgive my ignorance, how are tube amps? Do they add much to the quality of sound or is it more of a purist thing (or combo)? If the latter, I totally get it. I have an old mustang (66') and love to listen to music from the 60s in it. Not exclusively, but it's fun as it transports you (mentally) to what might have been playing on the radio when someone bought the car new. Either way I'm curious.
Right on, I'm attaching a few pics I took today, mainly of it's condition (I'll try to do some glamour 'before' pictures more properly later). Any help identifying what wood the veneer is and/or any suggestions in making it look close to as good as it sounds is appreciated.
Sweet. That's one step closer to learning the story of 'these' speakers. Which, honestly I'm finding is super cool. Not often do you get to learn much about a 'product' that is almost as old as I am. Definitely gives you a pride of ownership.
Nice! Those look like walnut? Be careful with the sanding I’d recommend 0000 steel wool at first maybe a little light mineral spirits just to clear the top layer. Honestly, go easy, that veneer is thin.
The tubes & vinyl for me, honestly, are just a “purist thing” as you say. It’s how music used to be heard. Hell, back in the early eighties, to me, a decent turntable, 35W/Ch Tube Amp & Heresys would have been a dream set up. (Ok, it was La Scalas & a 100 W/Ch Yamaha pre-Amp & Power Amp, but still…) Good luck with those Heresys, don’t let others talk you into changing them too much, at least not for a while. Listen to em for a bit.
here is a pic of my HBR ‘83s, yours are a nicer finish than mine.
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Congratulations! Heresys are awesome, we are all glad that you saved them from the carport. I own five Heresys. One pair is from ‘83 like yours. I Use that pair for a two channel, mostly vinyl, tube amp set up. We are still waiting for pictures of yours, and most of us will only be too happy to share cleaning & finishing ideas. Oh, and you are correct, the K is the builder’s initial. I’m sure someone will know who that was.
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19 minutes ago, Area 51 said:
Thanks! One cabinet is simply "illegible". The other, with a little guesswork, looks like (maybe) 9 9 U 1 7 (9)? And, in the upper left corner maybe "H" ?
I recall seeing a "how to" post pictures on the forum but I don't remember where I saw that. Is there a dumbed down "For Dummies" version available?
Excellent. Your speakers were made in 1980. If that letter in the corner could be an “A”, then like my 1980s they were built by fellow forum member #hdbrbuilder. If it’s an “H” I’m sure he’d know who built them. I hope I’m not taking too much focus from Rowan611’s potential sale. Then again, I suppose a thread bump only helps.
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On 11/15/2021 at 12:57 AM, Area 51 said:
Thank you. I appreciate your help. Rowan611 and you have:
K-22-K Woofers
K-53-K Mids or Squawkers
K-77-M Woofers (though I see K-77. I don't know where the "M" comes from).
Type E-2 Networks
and that makes a Heresy 1.5
This is all new to me.
My recently acquired "Mystery" Heresys have:
K-22-E Woofers
K-55-V Mids
K-77-M Tweeters
Type E Networks
No Tags and the Serial Number digits are illegible. The young man I bought them from has no idea. Do I understand Randy correctly: this combination would mean they were manufactured in the late '70s? And that would mean they are Heresy 1s? And you, M_Klipsches, have both and prefer the sound of the 1.5s. And Randy feels the K-55-V Mids make these more "valuable" than those speakers with the K-53-K Mids? It probably doesn't matter to me because I probably won't be selling any time soon but I wonder why one "Squawker" might be "worth" more or less than the other?
Thanks again,
geo
Area 51
Those components sound like the ‘70s through early ‘80s Heresys. Pics might help. But the serial numbers would be the best info. Maybe start a thread with detailed pictures would yield some answers. Obviously components can be swapped, cabinets can be built/rebuilt. One thing, you use the word illegible for the serial numbers. Maybe try to take a piece of paper and pencil or charcoal and try to take a rubbing that might reveal the mystery. Another place to look is the upper left side, look for an initial or two there. Those are the builder’s initials. That could narrow the time frame. Good luck. Looking forward to seeing pictures.
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6 hours ago, Area 51 said:
Hi M_Klipsches!
Would you be kind enough to detail which internals constitute your H1.5 Heresy, please?
Mine, internally are the same as Rowan611’s. Honestly when I bought my ‘83s I had no idea there was any internal difference between those and the pair of 1980 H1s that I’d owned for years. I just thought they sounded better, more bass, a smoother and more balanced sound. Honestly, I thought it was in my head. I owned them for a couple of years before I opened them up, and saw they had different parts. Then I remembered hearing about the “H1.5”, and I realized, that must be these.
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To my ears the H1.5 are the best sounding Heresys. Whoever isn’t buying these is missing out. If I didn’t already have five Heresys, two of which are ‘83 “1.5”s… Good luck with your sale, or keeping them, whichever is best for you.
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10 hours ago, wuzzzer said:
My room is about 20 feet wide and 12 feet deep.
Similar to mine then. That’s crazy. I know what my single TT is capable of in that space, I can barely imagine what two, even larger subs are capable of. Chasing & deadening room vibrations must be a never ending task. One thing, you’ll likely have no trouble keeping up with any speakers, you’d ever put in the room. What are you powering them with?
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17 hours ago, wuzzzer said:
Just wanted to comment that my THTs have been impressing me more and more every time I listen to them. Listening to music, watching movies, they handle everything that's thrown at them without breaking a sweat.
I don't even have any EQ applied. I just placed them in my room 19" from the wall behind them and gave them a go. Eventually I'll get a minidsp and all that jazz but I'm just enjoying getting used to them for now.
17 hours ago, wuzzzer said:Whoa! that’s a whole lotta sub. Those make the Heresys look tiny. How big is your room?
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On 10/26/2021 at 5:39 PM, jason str said:
There is a model between the 18 and Table Tuba now.24x24x15
Horn mouth is smothered in that last picture. Read the plans for better suggestion. Finish looks nice.
I’ll check it out,I hadn’t checked in on the BFM site in a while. Yes it’s a couple of inches too close to the wall but the difference isn’t crazy. Actually before the acoustic tiles the best sound was with the horn pointed 180° degrees from the wall. Definitely not according to the plans but it worked better. The best design for the room would’ve probably been the THTLP, standing on end. But as it is , it sounds damn good and it will probably be a while before I build another. Then again…
Thank ya. The Tung oil varnish is darkening up nicely, I’m happy with that decision.
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Not exactly what you asked, but similar. I’m using RB-61II as front height speakers with La Scalas & Heresys in a 5.1.2. They work well in that role. But I doubt they’d be better than RS7s.
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Update: After living with this sub for nearly 18 months I’ve experimented with the placement & different settings. I’ve also had some resonance issues, that were mostly resolved, but still present. I originally built it with the intention to use it as a table. Before it was even finished I knew it was too large to be used as a table in that space. It really only fit in one other part of the room, but that was always plan B. I managed to get it sounding pretty good but it seemed it could be better. I tried repositioning it, rotating it with the horn pointed in different directions, finally settled on the horn pointed parallel to the facing wall, away from the corner. This calmed the resonances a bit while still allowing plenty of oomph. Obviously, this design is intended for corner placement so on a whim I bought these “acoustic panels” and installed them in the corner. Once installed, I flipped the sub so that it was oriented, per design. The increase in output was immediately noticeable, the bass went from good to, damn good. Bass you can feel, yet still blends with the La Scalas. I did turn down the amp gain a bit, but I haven’t even bothered to run the YPAO again. I’m sure I’ll get around to it.
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Nice work!
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Surely someone could make good use of these. I’m not in the market, but I’ve always thought these were a good design. Good luck with your sale.
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2 minutes ago, CECAA850 said:
Just go to the first post and hit edit.
Thank ya. Why didn’t I think of that?
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This has been sold. I’ll amend the listing as soon as I figure out how to edit the original post.
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It’s still available. If anyone wants to try an external amp, this is a good chance to get a nice one. I’ve never been insulted by an offer. I may have turned it down, but hey, at least there’s a starting point.
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This is still available. My wife will be going to her sister’s for a few days, I might just take things apart and try to find a way to use it in the family room system. So if you are on the fence...
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For me, the difference in the two options is damn subtle. Although I will say that the voltage source was somewhat more pleasing to my ear. At least through the La Scalas, other speakers might be different. It’s nice to have options. I’ve never used the XLR Inputs, as my AVR doesn’t support them. Supposed to be quieter, but I can’t imagine how it could be “quieter” than completely silent. But hey, maybe so.
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4 hours ago, makos said:
Looks like a good deal for someone. If I was in the market for an HT amp I'd be all over this. People tend to hold on to these so you don't
see them on the used market very often.
Thank ya. I think they are more than just an HT Amp. This one mostly saw two channel use driving La Scalas, where it sounded great with just about anything you’d care to hear. Everything from horns, Hammond B3 Organs, to cellos. But it is certainly capable of some serious cinema sound when called upon. “The Hobbit”, was phenomenal. I know I sound like I’m selling it; oh wait, I am selling it. 🙂
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2 hours ago, Schu said:
any photos of the back?
Certainly. Let me know if you need to see anything else.
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Sunfire Cinema Grand Architect’s Choice Series II, Five Channel Amplifier
I’ve recently upgraded my “music room” to a Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature amp, and had planned to use this one in the family room system. However it won’t easily fit in the AV stand, and rather than redo everything (0 WAF) it makes more sense to just sell it, and let someone else make use of it. Output is 225 Watts/channel, with all channels driven (8 Ohm load)
It works perfectly, is dead quiet, and sounds fantastic. I’ve even replaced the lamp in the Joule Meter. While it is in great working order, it does have some nicks and scratches also one small dent in the top of the case. The face of the unit does present well and it looks good in the rack. I’ll be happy to send additional pics, if desired. I’m limited by file size on this post. $850, plus shipping, I’ll work with ya on shipping, as best I can. Pick up is possible, if you are close enough to make it worth your while.
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I’ve got La Scalas and Heresy Is in a relatively small room. 13’ X 20’ X 7’. You won’t be disappointed with either choice. I use the Heresys with a turntable powered by a tube amp, no sub, for the pure “old school” experience. The La Scalas do everything else from 2.1 to HT, and they are awesome. If your tastes run to more a more modern sound, you’ll want a sub. We didn’t need them back in the old days, because we didn’t know anything else. I resisted the subwoofer for years, I was wrong. A horn loaded subwoofer paired with La Scalas is really impressive. Good luck, whichever way you decide.
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I’ve got the Denon 3700H in the 5.1 family room system. It powers RP280Fs, RC62II, & RP502S. It does a great job. It’s mostly used for TV & Movies, but does well with music too. I’d imagine either of the Denons you mentioned would work well with your Reference speakers too.
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I’d suggest having a look at DIY. I’ve built a couple of Bill Fitzmaurice’s horn loaded “Tuba” designs and they are great. They blend very well with both my Heresys and La Scalas. Their performance is quite impressive they don’t overwhelm, they just blend well and add the musical bass that I’m guessing you are looking for with your set up. With your Heresys the Tuba T18 (or two) could work quite nicely. There are plenty of affordable plate amp options with speaker level inputs that will work with your receiver, and Heresys. I did a couple of build threads on here and I’ll figure out how to attach a link to them. His plans are affordable and easy to follow, even with a minimum of woodworking skills. I think it’s ok to post a link to his website, if not I apologize. https://billfitzmaurice.info
Good luck, there are more than a couple of folks on the forum that can really help you out if you decide to go that route. I’ll be happy to answer any questions that my meager knowledge and questionable skills will allow.
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H III or H IV
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I used my H1s as L/R “bookshelf” speakers in a cabinet, they sounded just fine. Maybe a slightly diminished bass response, maybe just enhanced mids & highs from the elevation. They were mounted a bit higher than the ones in your photo. I’d think the rear port on HIVs would cause issues, maybe not?