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How do I figure out what quality my system is playing in?
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3 hours ago, No.4 said:
As I understand it MQA is unique to tidal and not all DACs support MQA files. Does yours?
Idk, I’m not sure what dac is in the mrx720. Lol this is partly what I’m trying to figure out. I’m new to a lot of this.
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Ok so I’m trying to figure out a route to listen to Mqa master quality on tidal. I’m paying for it and get the master quality songs but I don’t think I’m actually getting the higher quality media for reasons unknown to me. I’m listening to tidal masters on windows 10 through my computer but how do I actually take full advantage of a master quality recording. Even though I’m listening to a master quality recording I don’t think my system is properly unfolding it or whatever it’s called, I think it’s the same quality as say a hifi recording. How do I check to make sure the music coming through my speakers is actually the master quality 24bit 196hz or what ever it is? Sorry I feel like I’m just repeating myself. I think it’s only playing in 16bit 48hz.
I also have another question. When I try to configure my speakers on my computer as a 7.1 Surround sound system or the Dolby Atmos for home theater format(I don’t have any Atmos speakers but I didn’t know if should use this mode or the other) On avr mrx720 when I try to do this and apply it it says multi pcm 3/4 and sound only comes out of the front left and right speakers no matter what mode I put it in. I have to set it up as a stereo system only then sound will actually come out of all 7 speakers. I’m also using a HDMI cord vs an optical which I thought would make it possible and I thought I had it going the night before but then couldn’t get it to do it again today. How do I get sound to come out of all 7 speakers while having it properly configured on my computer? Also does this even make any difference in sound quality either way? It’s very confusing and frustrating any help would be appreciated, I hope you guys understand what I’m trying to say.
also I thought before when I got it to work It was going through Realtek high definition audio but now it’s running though the nvida and I can’t get it to work, idk if that helps but ya...
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I want maximum bass or course and willing to spend the money. How much space would I need or would be ideal for the Cornwall 4’s?
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Which should I choose or which is better for 2 channel music or surround music? I listen to all types of music, almost every type.
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Being a rf7iii owner I would say these speakers are built for electronic music. I’m telling you right now it’s like they were made for it. They excel and that’s and understatement when it comes to electronic music. The cornwalls are quite a bit more expensive than the rf7iii and imho even tho the cornwalls are more expensive I could still see the rf7iii doing electronic music better. Tho I have not heard cornwalls just my opinion. Either way I think your can’t go wrong. I also love electronic music and I feel like for the money klipsch is the best for this type of music when it comes to other brands. People say klipsch are for rock, I say they are for electronic.
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On 10/4/2020 at 4:34 PM, artto said:
Streaming sources like Tidal or Quboz do not use a CD as the source. They are using the digital file provided by the recording company/artist.
CD playback is inferior to streaming because...................
1) the CD itself has errors on it. It is not "bit perfect". It is a "pressed" disc which has imperfections just like LP has imperfections
2) the lasers reading the CD do not read the data perfectly. Simply reading the CD with lasers creates errors.
3) the CD player itself has its own noise and distortion. An additional component in the signal chain always adds its own noise & distortion to the equation.
4) the set of cables between the CD player and amplifier are also eliminated when streaming directly to the amplifier
In order to take advantage of Hi_Res streaming to the fullest extent you will need an amplifier/receiver that can accept the streamed file directly. It needs an Ethernet port.
You cannot get the highest quality from streaming a Hi_Res digital file from your phone or tablet via Bluetooth.
You cannot get the highest quality from streaming a Hi_Res digital file to your PC/Laptop browser. Master Quality Authenticate (MQA) files for instance do not "unfold" to the highest resolution (if available) when using a browser. Also, the PC is essentially another "source", almost like the CD player - another electronic component in the signal path with extra cables required to connect, albeit without the spinning disc/laser reading involved.
When you rip your CD to a computer you've essentially done 1) & 2) above. You've made a perfect copy - of all the errors on the CD as well as errors created by the lasers reading it.
Can the anthem mrx720 accept the music files directly? In order to get the highest possible quality. Is using that method the only way to get the highest quality sound possible out of the hi-res music?
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14 hours ago, Marvel said:
TOSLINK (from Toshiba Link[2]) is a standardized optical fiber connector system.[3] Also known generically as optical audio, its most common use is in consumer audio equipment (via a "digital optical" socket), where it carries a digital audio stream from components such as CD and DVD players, DAT recorders, computers, and modern video game consoles, to an AV receiver that can decode two channels of uncompressed lossless PCM audio or compressed 5.1/7.1 surround sound such as Dolby Digital or DTS Surround System. Unlike HDMI, TOSLINK does not have the bandwidth to carry the lossless versions of Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, or more than two channels of PCM audio.
Do I have to use a blue ray player to get truehd or dts hd master audio or will I get this formats on say my computer through Hulu. I’m pissed that I can’t use an HDMI cord. But I’m gonna figure it, just for the record it’s not normal for there to be a bad static noise coming through with HDMI is there? Should the warranty on my recover or power amp which ever it may be cover it if it’s one of the two causing the problem? What’s pcm audio?
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19 hours ago, artto said:
Streaming sources like Tidal or Quboz do not use a CD as the source. They are using the digital file provided by the recording company/artist.
CD playback is inferior to streaming because...................
1) the CD itself has errors on it. It is not "bit perfect". It is a "pressed" disc which has imperfections just like LP has imperfections
2) the lasers reading the CD do not read the data perfectly. Simply reading the CD with lasers creates errors.
3) the CD player itself has its own noise and distortion. An additional component in the signal chain always adds its own noise & distortion to the equation.
4) the set of cables between the CD player and amplifier are also eliminated when streaming directly to the amplifier
In order to take advantage of Hi_Res streaming to the fullest extent you will need an amplifier/receiver that can accept the streamed file directly. It needs an Ethernet port.
You cannot get the highest quality from streaming a Hi_Res digital file from your phone or tablet via Bluetooth.
You cannot get the highest quality from streaming a Hi_Res digital file to your PC/Laptop browser. Master Quality Authenticate (MQA) files for instance do not "unfold" to the highest resolution (if available) when using a browser. Also, the PC is essentially another "source", almost like the CD player - another electronic component in the signal path with extra cables required to connect, albeit without the spinning disc/laser reading involved.
When you rip your CD to a computer you've essentially done 1) & 2) above. You've made a perfect copy - of all the errors on the CD as well as errors created by the lasers reading it.
I’d tou cant get the highest quality with a phone of a computer, then how in gods name do you get the highest quality. With streaming device like a lumen?
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On 10/4/2020 at 10:52 AM, Marvel said:
Any optical out/in is digital, so the DAC in the receiver would be what is used.
The question is the optical chipset on the motherboard, and what it will transmit.
What do you mean, do the chipset on the motherboard will also transmit some stuff??
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And it’s like not so much a pain in my ears tho it is sometimes but mostly just in my head, it like hurts my head.. I if you can move your ears it kinda feels like that. I know this sounds horrible but it’s kinda like makes me ears cringe. It is actually a pain in my ears also. And it almost happens at any volume like even quite low. It’s becoming very frustrating. This doesn’t happen with other speakers..
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3 hours ago, Shiva said:
Having experienced what you have a time or two, I can say that your ears will heal, if you do give them a rest and keep the volume dial down for a while. In regards to tubes, do you want a straight power amp to connect to your Anthem, or perhaps an integrated amp to play with instead? What is your price point as well?
O hold so I can get a power tube amp to plug into my anthem, I was unaware of this. I want what will sound best. The best possible scenario. My price point is anywhere from 200-2000 give or take maybe a couple thousand lol. Idk something like that.
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I have no knowledge with or of tube amps. I am wondering what would be the best or some ideal tube amps that I could pair up with my rf7iii speakers. I would be doing this for music listening purposes. Recently I think I turned my speakers up a little to loud and now my ear hurt when ever I listen to music on my rf7iii’s, last a certain loudness. I’m trying my best to take it easy and let me ears heal so this will go away. Do you guys think it will if I take it easy on my ears and let them heal? I love klipsch and I don’t want to get rid of these speakers I want to work around it and find a way to fix this problem because I love these speakers. But ever since I got these speakers I was interested in a nice tube amp. I think it would Be an easy way to help with some of the problems I am having and I want to try the sound of a tube amp out. Right now I am using a anthem mrx720 and some external amplification via a Parasound a31. Even with movies it seems my ears are sensitive but I know there always around this I hope and I also hope with time it will go away. Thanks guys.
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So with an optical cord I can’t get Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio. I can’t use an HDMI cord with my computer becasue I get a static noise with my speakers otherwise. So I use an optical. With the optical do I get the lossless hofi master quality sound tidal has to offer, the highest quality of music tidal has to offer? Also when I’m using the optical cord am I using the Dac in the reciver or the sound card in my motherboard? I use an anthem mrx720 and external power parasound a31. Thanks.
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On 10/1/2020 at 5:28 PM, robert_kc said:
What genres of music do you listen to?
Pretty much anything. But a lot of psychedelic electronic trippy shit. But also anything from a lot of movie scores to video game soundtracks to dire Straits. I love anything and everything that sounds good. Just starting to get back into hardcore music listening when I got my new music system just recently. Got some catching up to do.
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Do they actually use walnut on the outer layer or what do they use with the walnut or even the cheery? It’s suppose to be a furniture grade wood veneer which is a thin layer.
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Honestly also depends on the day. Day by day I yearn for different modes, big factor. And the song.
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On 9/30/2020 at 8:19 AM, Chris A said:
Paul Klipsch agreed with you--except he basically found it ca. 1958:
What I've found is that on my setup, stereo sources (two-channel) sound better in stereo mode, but the sound stage of the Jubs is huge--encompassing the entire front wall and part of the side walls, so switching to a synthesized 5.1 actually seems to detract from the minute details and some of the naturalness of the soundstage itself.
Not every setup is the same, and PWK was using Khorns and a Heresy/Cornwall/La Scala/Belle center (in that apparent chronological order), so the polar coverage response with frequency of your loudspeakers horizontally and vertically has a big effect on what you hear, I think.
Chris
It’s just makes sense. Why wouldn’t you be able to hear everything better with three speakers going instead of two. Sometimes I feel it’s too much for just two speaker to recreate everything as it should and that third speaker really just helps that last extra 5-20%. That’s pretty freaking awesome how Paul Klipsch felt the same way as me.. 😊. Thanks for that cool info. But ya like you said everyone is different and everyone’s set up is different which would probably have a big impact on it for sure.
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On 9/30/2020 at 4:52 AM, willland said:
Though I do love the way my RF-63s sound in just stereo, when the RF-63s, RC-64, RS-35s, and subs are running in NAD's "Enhanced Stereo" mode, it truly does sound "enhanced" with great imaging and a seamless presentation.
Bill
So enhanced stereo mode plays your center and surrounds? That’s cool.
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3 minutes ago, Schu said:
Try 5.1 for a real treat.
That’s what I’m doing.
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I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this. In Most or a lot of situations. I’ve noticed I’ve liked playing three channel music better or it’s acually 5.1, it’s just my I don’t really notice my rears so I just like to call it 3.1z Like having my rc-64III going along with my two rf-7III’s. It just feels like the music comes alive more and the music stage is really opened up and everything just kinda opens up more. This was surprising to me because before with my old klipsch speakers I liked two channel listening more. But with this current setup I just feel the rc-64III flawlessly integrates in with the rf7-III and in ways is almost better than having three rf-7III’s. Not that I don’t like two channel listening or it doesn’t sound good cause it also is simply amazing. But I find myself forcing myself for lack of a better word to go to back to stereo when listening to music. I just feel three channel is Superior To making to music Sound how it should sound or maybe just making it more appealing to me and being able to hear every little sound more easily in a lot of situations. And I say three channel but it also has my surrounds going but they’re quite low so I don’t even really notice them like if I was to have it on all channel or something so I just call it three channel. Probably do it about 50/50.
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6 hours ago, Khornukopia said:
I would set the LPF at 80hz in the receiver to match your HPF at 80hz.
In laymen’s terms please. I’m guessing to match my speakers your saying? What’s the benefit s of doing this? Won’t I be missing out on some bass tho?
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I have the sw112 klipsch subwoofer for now, waiting to get my captivator 4000ulf lp. But until then how do I set up my settings for the klipsch subwoofer? I just want to be sure but I did some research, so I set the lpf to lfe bullcrap to 120 then I turned the lowpass on the back of my sub to the highest setting which is 150Hz I believe. Is this a good way to do it or the correct way to do it?? Thanks 🙏! Running it with my rf7iii and rc64iii and have those crossovers set to 80hz. Thanks guys.
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19 hours ago, Tony Whitlow said:
All this streaming probably use CDs as a source. How can they claim they are better than CD?
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI forget the name of the lad but someone did a good review of master vs hifi and he said there’s a big difference but when you level Th r playing field which he noticed from hifi to master the volume was louder so when he turned the volume down to match hifi level the quality increase was only about a 10-15%. That’s how he described it. Which he said it’s quite hard to notice actual better sound quality but it was there but said it was mostly a difference in volume. But it’s just one mans opinion. I don’t know how they do it but when it’s master quality They do something to make it sound better but idk if it’s from a cd or not. Andrew Robison is his name I believe that did the review.
MQA master quality files?
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Acually I saw somewhere that says it can so I think it can. But still I don’t think I’m getting the better quality master brings to the table. I can’t figure this shit out...😔☹️