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1 minute ago, Westcoastdrums said:
800 via passive network, 630 if I went active and biamped.
Yes, that what I can do with these old Peavey's too I am told. The Peavey horn has a 22a driver in it that only goes up to maybe 10 k w/o any EQ.
A guy locally has a pair of some JBL 16 ohm drivers and a big *** horn, and we are negotiating on the price, or maybe a trade. Of course, I would have to bi amp, since they are 16 ohms and will not work with my crossovers, and in the Peavey, the crossovers are inside the horns. I really like your speakers! Perfect Size! How much did they cost ?
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17 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:
Yes. 4722N. The come in a passive version (which I have) and a biamp version. As you go up in the JBL cinema line, they have some pretty serious systems and they are either biamped or triamped. The height on all of those is far too high for a residential listening room I feel, unless you are in platform raised theater seating.
I totally agree! I am not afraid of big speakers, I am playing with these old Peavey Speakers, at the moment, that I bought for only 100.00 for the PAIR ! I have them mounted in the corners, firing at the center of the room. The Peavey horn crosses over at 800, but it is said that in a home environment, you can cross the horn a little lower. Where does your horn crossover at ?
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6 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:
Ummmmmmm yup....
If those are your speakers, do they have crossovers built in so all you need to do is hook up the amplifiers ?
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On 4/18/2015 at 7:20 AM, NOSValves said:
Anyone have any idea what it is? I found the picture on facebook.
Looks similar to a JBL 3632 T from the JBL Cinema line , but with only one woofer. Yes, I know this is an old thread, so please do not tell me that this is an old thread. These were tri amplified speakers, meaning you will need 3 amplifiers to run them. Not sure if they had a crossover built in or not, but if not, you will also need an electronic crossover as well. On another forum, a poster said they were bright, since they were designed to radiate through a movie screen. But because they are tri amplified, you will have control over the way they sound.
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2 hours ago, babadono said:
I think ALK did tests with Dave Harris' eliptrac tweeters and determined horizontal was the way to go. But then again that was with Dave's not Dave's
Every tweeter is different. I have owned both Vertical and Regular Cornwalls, and there was absolutely no comparison as far as imaging goes. The Vertical Cornwalls imaged much better. However, this comes at the expense of a smaller sweet spot.
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1 hour ago, richieb said:
Levinson was married to Kim Cattrall. Obviously a man of culture and good taste.
Yes, but realize he no longer owns Levinson. Many years ago Sandy Berlin took it over, then sold it to Harman International.
I do not hold Mark Levinson in the same regard as Saul Marantz, or even David Hafler. Both Marantz and Hafler designed their own stuff.
Levinson hired designers, first John Curl, then Tom Colangelo.
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19 hours ago, pallpoul said:
I love my Klipschorns just as they came from the factory, sounding jut amazing. I wonder why he said that.
I don't know, but I was surprised he said that. My friends store sold Mark Levinson stuff, but they were not a Klipsch dealer.
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16 minutes ago, RandyH said:
klipsch had the Cornwall Vertical series which mounted the tweeter vertically , and older Klipschorn speakers also mounted the EV T35 tweeter vertically , so Mark Levinson seems to have preferred to position the tweeter alike the older klipsch designs-
The Vertical Tweeter makes them image better. I have heard Vertical Cornwalls, and they image better.
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3 hours ago, pallpoul said:
I love my Klipschorns just as they came from the factory, sounding jut amazing. I wonder why he said that.
I don't know but maybe because he makes that balls to the walls equalizer called The Audio Pallet ?
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I lived in Seattle back in the 80's. My best friend Mark owns Definitive Audio, and they were Levinson Dealers. Mark Levinson came to town, and I was invited by my friend Mark to join him and Mark Levinson at the Space Needle for dinner. I sat right next to Mark Levinson, and I asked him "Mark, what are the ultimate speakers one can buy" He thought for a minute, and to my great surprise he said "Klipschorns" !
He told me you need to use equalization with them, and also told me you need to get the tweeters out of them, and turn them vertical, for best imaging.
His answer surprised me, but I have never forgot what he told me.
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On 3/24/2016 at 11:44 AM, T2K said:
If you need specs for the KSP series I might be able to help. I have some literature for the series if you want a copy.
Keith
I know this is an old thread, but guess what I found ?????
A Minty Pair of KSP 400's !!!!!!!
We have agreed on a price, and I should be picking them up this weekend!
The amps in the KSP 300's took a shit on me, so they are gone
I picked up another powered Klipsch Tower a year ago. It is the Klipsch RP 3. Too bad I had to get rid of the KSP 300's, I would have liked to compare them. The little RP 3 is no slouch, and I have enjoyed them.
But I have always wanted a pair of the KSP 400's, and now I have found them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On 6/8/2016 at 12:17 AM, T2K said:
Hey DB. Welcome to the forum. For movies you can't beat the KSP400's. That is what they were designed for. You said all '5' of the speakers. That makes me think that you may have a KSP-C(center)6 rather than a KSP-S(surround)6 speaker. If that is the case you could use the KG4's for surround. Try them and see what you think.
The 2 speakers are not even close. On their best day under the most ideal of situations the KG4's won't touch the KSP400's, for any use.
FYI, since you mentioned it, the KSP400's retailed for around $3450 pair when new, the KG4's maybe $600.
You may eliminate the buzz with a cheater plug. Costs about .59 cents. Try it. It might eliminate your grounding problem.
If the amp needs servicing you can buy an exchange amp from Edward's Electronics in Mesa Arizona. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Repair-Service-Klipsch-KSP-400-Send-Us-Your-Non-Working-Amp-We-Will-Repair-It-/252415339496?hash=item3ac5206be8:g:SXMAAOSw7I5TxFFc
There are numerous wiring options for the KSP400's. Read the manual. If you don't have one you should be able to download one for free. If all else fails PM me and I'll see if I have an extra manual.
I've owned my KSP's for 15 years and I've never had to buy new crossovers because of listening fatigue. I've owned and heard many other Klipsch speakers and the only speakers I have now are the KSP setup. The rest got sold. But people have their own preferences. If you want to sell the KSP's let me know, I might be interested if you're close to me.
Any questions ask away.
Keith
You are SO Right !
The KG4's are musical little bastards, I will give them that! But absolutely no match for a well set up pair of KSP 400's ! Not even close. And yes, I realize how old this thread is.
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On 1/20/2021 at 12:18 AM, adamwmyers said:
How odd to come here at this time but am grateful for the experience and knowledge. I have owned a a pair of Forte's since the mid eighties - love them and need nothing more till I die. My hearing is not what it used to be but wonder if the caps and resistors might be worn after decades of really loud music. My Q is, might they perk up with a new set of resistors. I still have some hearing left to lose.
Thanks everyone, Adam
I used to own the Original Forte's
Resistors are usually OK, even after many years.
However, the Capacitors do go bad, especially if the original ones were electrolytic types.
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5 hours ago, Ceptorman said:
I did notice that you have been here a while. Hang around, there are quite a few knowledgeable people on here, and occasionally an interesting discussion.
Thanks!
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1 hour ago, Ceptorman said:
Sorry to rattle your cage. But this place does get busy, maybe not as busy as it was decades ago. Most people that resurrect an old thread don't realize how old it was.
I apologize too, I guess I took it the wrong way
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5 hours ago, Ceptorman said:
This thread is almost 20 years old.
Ya think ?
Do you think I don't know that, or something ?
WTF ?
This Forum is Dead, compared to what it once was, so one would think that any post here is better than no posts.
Not that it is really any of your business, but my reason for posting to an old thread was to add to the knowledge base of the Klipsch RP 3 and the Klipsch RF 5
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On 7/10/2001 at 4:19 PM, cc1091 said:
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Doubtful that you damaged your speakers. I agree, these are great sounding speakers.
As for the RP-5 being a "..far superior speaker" I can say without a doubt that the RP-5 and RP-3 are very similar in their characteristics, except that the Rp-5 had the extra resonance (and distortion) that comes with a ported bass system. The 8" midrange (actually about 7") of the RP-5 is so far "superior" to the 6.5" (actually about 5") midrange of the Rp-3 that Klipsch designed the crossover so that the horn loaded tweeter would take more of the frequency load from the 8" driver of the Rp-5 than the 6.5" driver of the Rp-3 (HF crossover for the Rp-3 is at 2750hz while the Rp-5 is at 1950hz). I guess that 8" driver of the Rp-5 has some annoying characteristics above 1950hz (1975hz for the RF-3..oh yeah, that's a different part number)??
Hmm..barely a reference tonight on the Klipsch website of the RF-3. I'm greeted with the link, "We are sorry but this product is currently not available." Have they discontinued this speaker too?
I have owned both the RP 5 and the RP 3. I sold the RP 5, and still have the RP 3
The reason the RP 5 has a lower crossover point is because the 8 inch midrange will not go up as high as the 6.5 inch midrange of the RP 3, and it does not have as good dispersion. The RP 3 IMHO is the better speaker. It images better with a wider sweet spot, and it's bass Quality is much better, because it has a sealed vs ported woofer.
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On 2/26/2003 at 7:32 PM, arena said:
i have a pair of rp3s and have also heard the higher end external subs in home theater set ups (local shop has the rsw-15 in a listening room with the rest of the rf-7 series) and can tell you that the subs in the rp3s are better for music, but the independant sub is better for home theater.
i had heard that bass sound is nondirectional/omnidirectional, but my ears tell me a different story. as far as music is concerned having two 10' subs in a 2 channel setup sounds far better and more balanced than a single rsw-15. 2 channels, 2 ears, 2 subs. just makes sense.
i would also agree that the bass sounds "tighter" on the rp3s, but that this tightness seems to come as a compromise in home theater applications when compared with the rsw-15 which has a longer throw.
so if you're primarily interested in music, go with powered towers like the rp3s that have subs included. believe it or not for music i preferred the sound of my rp3s over the rf-7s with the rsw-15, and the theater room they had them set up in was sonically better than my mother's garage (where i live. don't worry, i'm in college and trying to save some $$$).
my rp3 subs simply couldn't compare, however, to the rsw-15 as far as home theater is concerned (i tested using 'saving private ryan').
as for the hiss, when i have my subs in standby they are dead silent. so maybe you should look into one of those thousand dollar power conditioners (just kidding).
so if it's music, go for the rp3 sub, if home theater, go for an independant. of course we all know music is better than home theater anyway...
I totally agree! The RP 3 Woofer is very tight and defined because it is a sealed vs ported box.
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Does anyone have a crossover schematic and/or a picture of the RP 3 crossover ?
I think I saw a picture of the crossover awhile ago, and it seemed to have Mylar Caps in it ?
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On 12/12/2001 at 4:04 PM, LesHalles said:
The rp3 and rp5 seem to have the same tweeter driver and horn, but they have different crossovers. The rp3 is 2750hz, the rp5 is something like 1980hz (I forget exactly).
On the RF3 and RF5 the crossovers are, as I recall different than this. So the RP3 and RP5 do not seem to be just RF3 and RF5 with subwoofers added.
I read that the higher crossover actually can give smoother mids somewhere else on this board (maybe a comparison of the RF3 and RF5).
Also, RP3 seems to have an unported subwoofer, the RP5 seems to have a ported subwoofer. In general, doesn't unported tend to be tighter?
The 6.5" woofer on the RP3 is smaller than the 8" on the RP5- but for midrange, wouldn't a slightly smaller woofer be better, even if the power handling would be less?
Question: what is the sound difference between the RP3 and RP5?
The reason for the lower crossover point on the RP5 is because of the 8 inch woofer. The 8 inch woofer simply will not play well as high in frequency as the smaller 6.5 inch woofer in the RP3.
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16 hours ago, AE5NL said:
I have the KSP 300s and love them. Can I ask you what the model number is of the center speaker?
Thanks in advance,
Nelson
AE5NL
I gave those speakers to my little brother, who got back on the drugs, and sold them, so I have no way to check, but as I remember, the center channel was n ot special. Much of the time, I just used the 2 speakers, with a phantom center
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I know this thread is old, and the B&K Components TX 4430 amp sold. I just wanted to add that it is an excellent sounding amplifier, and if you only use 2 of the 3 channels, it has almost never ending current. A real sleeper of an amplifier. It sort of sounds like a tube amplifier, meaning it is warm, rich and 3 dimensional.
Just the amplifier to tame a bright speaker.
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On 10/12/2020 at 8:13 PM, wuzzzer said:
This thread is old enough to vote.
Both woofers are still to be had, on the used market.
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I have had Cornwall 1 and Chorus 2 in this room, just not at the same time. The Chorus 2's were quite bright sounding to me, and all it took was a look at the measured frequency response on the Klipsch website to realize why. The speaker has quite a rising high frequency response. I sold them, and got some Forte 1's upon a suggestion of DJK. I got a far better sound, in my room with the Forte's. I would not want to ever own Chorus 2's again.
The All But Forgotten Klipsch KSP 300
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Yes, Very Interested! I just gave my RP 5's to my neighbor for some work he did for me. They left here with fond memories!