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So I havent posted in here in forever, but recently I was watching the opening musical score from Kill Bill Volume 1 and heard this devastatingly awful whistling sound coming during certain parts of the score. It took me hours to isolate that sound to the RC-7 itself, where there was air that was blowing out of the two holes underneath the speaker. These two holes would be coverd up by some included screws for speaker positioning if it were mounted on top of a tv. I cant use these screws as my speaker rests below the screen and actually needs to be angled up, not down. Putting these screws in place took care of the whistling sound but I was so thrown back that Klipsch would make a speaker, and not have either inserts in place already, or make some mention of it in the manual that this kind of unwanted vibration can occur. My temporary fix is to use two included sticker pads to cover up the positioning holes on the bottom of the RC-7. It took care of the problem, but I dont know if the sticker glue will hold up for a long time, or what better solution exists to fix this problem. Anyone here with an RC-7 experience this? any ideas?

my seating is right up against the back wall. So far I see too many reasons not go get ones than to get ones. Idk, we'll see.

Today I was fooling around online when I should have been studying and I went into our theater room to see what changes I could make. One thing I had never considered but now I wonder about is getting surround back channels. It was only 8 months ago that I got a proper set of surround speakers, the RS 62, and they sound absolutely wonderful. At that time, I didnt even think about 6.1 or 7.1 (i dont know if my dealer even will sell me just one RS 62). Anyway, I figured I'd ask a lot of you, if you went with more than 5.1, and what you did to justify your purchase at the time. Its not the money but I like to justify my purchases as being logical. As it stands right now, its not justified, at least I dont think. So in our theater, I mostly watch movies on HBO HD. I barely, if ever, watch DVDs... if some friends come over, and they want to go get a movie from blockbuster, then thats fine, but I never initiate it because I honestly cant stand 480p on a 124" screen, but i digress. Afaik, the Dolby Digtial spec doesnt include anything greater than 5.1, so it would seem that I will never get more than 5 channels of sound out of any HDTV broadcast, today or in the future, but I could be wrong about this, if someone wants to chime in. Because most of my theater use is watching HDTV, then upgrading to 7.1 will make no sense. Now what I dont know is bluray/HD DVD. I know they have the new Dolby truHD spec but I dont know if that will include more than 5 channels of sound usually. As it stands, my Denon receiver will amplifiy 7 channels, so i could get one, but what happens to the sound when 5 channels are used? does it just matrix the sound from the surrounds and send them to the back? and if it does do that, does that actually help or become a distraction?

have you tried your local authorized dealer? my local dealer quoted me a great price on our rotel equipment. there's definitely a lot of bargaining room with the Rotel MSRP, especially if you walk in with cash. you should definitely try that.

i have both the RF7s and the RF83s. The 83s are a bit tamer than the RF7s, a bit more refined, but no I wouldnt upgrade for the incremental improvement. we have both for different reasons, the 7s are used for theater only and the 83s are used for music only and we didnt want the exact same speaker in both rooms for aesthetic reasons, so it works. Enjoy your 7s. btw i looked at your equipment signature and saw you use a reciever to power your setup. if you really want to hear a change in sound, i would suggest you spend your money on upgrading to separates. I recently did just this for the 83s, and that has made a world of difference. These are sensitive speakers but the more good, clean power you provide, the more they shine.

cant go wrong with Rotel. they make some great stuff. I bought the RSP 1068 and the RB-1080 for our RF83s, and it sounds fantastic. With some negotiating, you can get those two down in that price range or very close to it.

i use the RS-62s with our RF7/RC7s... sounds good here. I wouldnt rule out the new whatever RC they have with the 8 series. timbre matching is important but if you really cared about that, you'd have all RF7s around.

could it be a defective pre-pro itself? the ONLY thing i changed was the addition of it, replacing the onkyo. Everything else is exactly the same, in terms of wiring, equipment, everything. should i try to hook up the pre-pro and amp to another outlet to se if that helps? I'm not getting a constant hum or anything. very perplexing. I'll definitely ask the dealer or rotel themselves.

We've had them since october, so far, besides the brand new soundstage i'm getting used to with the Rotels powering it, not much to report. Its just an all around sweet sound. Another quirk I noticed, that frankly shouldnt exist in a piece this sophisticated is that the RSP-1068 does not mute the pre-out for the sub when you change inputs or interrupt the input sound (ie when changing channels on the cable box). every time i change the channel, i hear a pop. That should be a very simple feature that should exist in all preamps, unless there is a special reason it needs to not be muted? In terms of music, i dont think i color any of the sound. All the tone controls are defeated, so i'm assuming i'm getting a pure reproduction of the original mix, just seems on pure analog it takes out all the bass. not complaining, in stereo mode, i get a fantastic sound. On the Denon, however, in their 'pure direct' mode, they do allow for bass management, but everything else is disabled.

why wouldnt setting the speaker size have anything to do with 2 channel? I dont have an HD player, I just have an HD monitor which we watch HD cable on, at night sometimes. But this is mostly a nice 2 channel stereo system.

well i dont think you read the whole thread because my original intent was to just upgrade to separates for 2 channel music only. I went with the RSP-1068, a surround sound pre-pro, because I heard good things about it here and elsewhere, and it also would convert composite/s-video to component. The only reason surround sound capabilities came up is because after i ran coax out of the cable box, all the signals from the HD channels come in as Dolby Digital, so thats why we were talking about it. I dont need HDMI/DVI because any future device I get, be it bluray or hd dvd, will go directly into the display, so i can definitely do without it in the pre-pro. btw: pictures of the SVS PB12+/2

What i discovered was a quirk in the Rotel is that everytime i was changing channels or the input, i would here a pop comming from the subwoofer. It was kind of irritating. So then when I disabled the crossover in the pre-amp/pro and sent the full signal to the sub, and then used the subwoofer's internal crossover, no more pops... I'm wondering if this is a defect of the Rotel or am i doing something wrong. Also, I'm crossing over at 80hz on the sub with its own crossover, but I'm assuming that the one inside the Rotel is more complex/refined/better? any thoughts on this or similar effects?

So, I bought the SVS PB12-Plus/2 sub and received that yesterday. It seems that if i set the main speakers to "large", i get almost no bass redirected to the subwoofer. If i set it to small however, I get, what i think, is the right amount to the subwoofer. I did have a couple of questions though. First, there are two crossover settings in the Rotel setup, one for the Speakers and one for the Subwoofer. Do both need to be set the same? Right now I have the rf83s set to small and crossed over at 80hz and the sub also crossed over at 80hz. I'd like to know why I need to set this twice, the manual isnt succinctly clear on this topic. Also, what is the point of pure analog stereo? that disables all bass management as well as the tone controls. Who would use that? btw this piano black finish on the SVS is superb, it really looks very stylish.

I have a 3803, which is the same as that model, except a few generations older. I was never really pleased with the bass management with it, but you could be, i would definitely test it out before buying. Solid reciever otherwise though.

you could always get a receiver now and a separate amp later, and then use the receiver just as a pre/pro. A lot of people do that, but i kinda think thats a waste, but it works for a lot of people. but for 2-3k for just audio equipment, you could get a very nice pre/pro and amp by itself, if you get a good deal. If you dont need HDMI, definitely consider Rotel. I'm going to swear by them from now on...

i will bet you almost anything that its not 1250/pair, but 1250 each.

Its not a question of which I like best. They do different things. The RF7s we use only for the theater, and the 83s are primarily used only for 2-channel music. The 7s are a bit louder, because they are a bit more sensitive, but the 83s are definitely smoother than the 7s, definitely more 'musical' and for that, we couldn't be happier with it. in our budget, its the best speaker set we could get. the 83s are just a bit more refined and tamer than the RF7s. which really works well for music.

thanks for the compliments, the sub should be here before the end of the week, and hopefully that'll be that, in terms of spending more money on completing this setup. i hope you can see in the picture that i posted above, that I do have the clearance they ask for in the manual. I have about 4 inches on the top and the sides. Yesterday I was watching a bit of basketball for about a couple of hours, and watching it very quietly, even then the processor gets quite hot, but again you say thats normal, so i'm hopefully just going to leave it at that.

we've had klipsch for quite a while. we built a theater around the RF7 line of speakers, which we first used in only 2-channel stereo. We liked them so much that we got the RF83s, which we now use as dedicated stereo. I've used all kinds of equipment to power these speakers, and although it doesnt take a lot of power, i've seen a lot of differences between the equipment. My recommendation to you would be to go with separates. To us, it was night and day. if you really want the most out of your 83s, go with separates. These speakers are very sensitive, to lead you to believe that you dont need a very powerful amplilfier to power it, but klipsch's claim that these are 8 ohm speakers are misleading, because as I and many others here will attest to, they do dip down low, quite a bit lower in resistance when playing, so you need a robust amp to really let the speakers shine. I didnt believe how dramatic this difference could be till last week, when I upgraded to separates, from a reciever. I've used onkyo and denon recievers to power the klipsch. They both do a good job, the onkyo moreso than the denon (3803), to me anyway. right now, my hands down favorite is Rotel. You could scroll down and see the thread I started about the rotel and these speakers, and see how I came to the decision to get it and how it sounds, etc. If you go the receivers route, you wont be disappointed in the least... as long as you dont listen to these speakers on separate components first. it really comes down to your budget. I would say for receivers, you should at least look to find some that put out 100 watts rms @ 8 ohms per channel and go with a reputable brand. If you go separates, you dont really need more than 200 watts rms per channel. Separates wont have the same features as a receiver. Separates usually concentrate more on the audio quality than features, like room correction and dvi/hdmi inputs/etc. so you should talk about what your budget is, what you're looking to run through your system, what you use it for, etc for more help.

well i just couldnt wait anymore. I pulled the trigger on the SVS. the deal was very good and i'm hoping it will all work out like it did before.

like i said, it gets hot but not enough to burn you, or even scald you or anything. And i've listened to music today for about 2 hours, at my hearing threshold and it didnt stop playing and i had no issues whatsoever. but i will take your advice and give rotel a call, see what they think. they will end this discussion.

its not 5%, i mistyped that, its actually quite a bit more than that but i probably shouldnt post how much more. Anwyay, i'm leaning more and more towards the PB2+ again. I just dont think the klipsch will do it for me in this application in our room.

i think i'm just going to go with the SVS. I can get a 5% discount as a return customer, i know it will work in my room and give the amount of bass I want, and the piano black finish should look pretty good and not be an eyesore like the regular black finish. i just dont have any more time to test out different subs.

yes, the dealer did say i could do an in-home trial if i so desired. i was just wondering if its even worth it for me to try. i guess i'm just being lazy as i dont want to lug around a 70+ lb sub for a couple of days and then have to return it. seems like you guys dont think it will do the job, so perhaps SVS is the answer. That one definitely did the job, at least to my satisfaction anyway.