masterxela Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I've been a klipsch fan for a long time, and my girlfriends dad got me the custom 1's for christmas. I ride a stationary bike a lot at the gym about an hour a day, and these are amazing. I highly recommend them. I'msure this has been covered, but does anyone have back to back listeningexperience and a comparison between the custom 1's and the moreexpensive models?Thanks, Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill H. Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Ordered my Custom 1's on 2/10/09 and received them today 2/12/09. Wow- thanks Amy. Heck of deal with the 50 dollar Valentine Offer, I couldn't pass this up............... Again thanks Amy and Klipsch. EDIT: After putting on smaller Ear Tips, I love these ! It is Very comfortable, and just feels/sounds as if the sound is beside each ear. Super Comfortable ! Thanks Klipsch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Thump Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Some of the earlier key information seems to be getting buried in all the posts. Such as this answer to your question. How many arms do I need? Hereis the lowdown as best as I can explain it without you having theearphone models in your ears.... Before I explain how many armaturesyou need. Let's go over some terms first:IEMor IE = In Ear Monitor - this is usually a professional level earphonethat is customized to fit your ear canals. The performer will usethese to minimize stage volumes, so they can work for more than 10years without losing your hearing. With lower volumes it is easier forthem to control what they want to hear in the monitor mix thus savingtheir hearing. Now the performer can stay on pitch and keep goodtiming. PM = Personal Monitors, earphones with armaturesHeadphones or HP = General description for all typesEarbuds = Similar to the Apple headphones with Moving coil transducers inside Entry LevelPM's.......... use a simple balanced armature. The challenge theengineer has primarily rests in the balance armature design itself, thedamper and the nozzle design. This is a very difficult task to makefull range since the transducer will work well in the LF or the HF butnot generally wideband. Typically the Bass, Vocals or Drums suffer themost with this design, sounding slightly harsh or not having any outputthat is audible in that range. In other words the vocal sounds throatyor scratchy depending on the model. There is also limited SPL withthis design due to being a single arm design. Even with thesedisadvantages it sounds better than any moving coil design that I haveheard since the mass of the diaphragm is much less the HF is much moreaccurate than a standard earbud with a moving coil. Custom 1 has beenoptimized to give the best balance of LF and HF. This design uses aKG332 armature. Mid LevelPM's............ use either premium single armatures that are usuallysmaller or dual armatures with minimal or no EQ. Each product has itslimitations. ForKlipsch's IMAGE PM a premium armature is used which is a proprietaryKG926 driver. The KG926 is ultra compact. Less weight generally meansmore comfort because there is less force on the ear canal. This modelhas "special sauce"which I can't go into, due to its proprietary nature, but it is veryfull range with delicate high's and smooth deep bass. The sound isvery accurate due to its light weight diaphragm and the multiple levelsof treatment to the design. Generally speaking people will have a hardtime complaining about this design. It is easy to use and sounds veryaccurate. Vocals are silky smooth and drums have a nice snap to them. You can not believe your ears...a product this size sounding this full! The primary limitation is that it is small so you must have a good airseal or you will loose bass. The way we have minimized this problemis by making the chassis micro small with a thin aluminum extruded bodyor chassis. This small diameter allows the armature to get closer toyour eardrum than all of the others models out there. Precisionmachining is required to make this model, and the design is complicatedto get correct due to its size. The patent pending eartip also insuresa better seal since it is similar to the shape of your ear. Anothertype of mid level design is using dual armatures similar to our Custom2. In the Custom 2 design we have partnered with Sonion and haveapplied for a patent on this armature, so I can talk about some of thedetails. The KG534 driver is really two drivers i.e. two motors twoarmatures and two diaphragms that are tandem (back to back). Thebenefit of this design is that the diaphragms pump air in opposingdirections so any vibration modes are minimized. Think of this similarto dual air bellows on your fireplace with a single nozzle. When youhave dual diaphragms your SPL increases by 3 dB and your distortiongoes down because it is not working as hard. Part of our appliedpatent evolves around the low pass acoustic filter that is built intoone of the two armatures. This give Klipsch greater control over theEQ since we can have two pistons, one optimized for bass andone optimized for full range. This baby rocks! Musicians will lovethis product because it is portable yet very efficient. Your vocalswill stand out in the mix as an IEM application. Update... You can see the Custom 2 Patent Application Here: http://www.klipsch.com/Klipschnotes/032009/Custom2.pdf High Level PM's...............usetwo or three armatures and a passive crossover. Our Custom 3 goes muchfurther. Not only does it have two different types of drivers and apassive crossover it also has a patent pending low pass acousticfilter. The Custom 3 utilizes a Klipsch KG723 for the HF tweeterwhich is a premium armature. This allows the vocals to be ultra silkyand very low in distortion. The LF is implemented by a KG732 armaturefor the LF woofer. The Custom 3 has TWO low pass filters thearmature has an internal LP filter plus an additional.... youguessed.... patent pending LP filter on the outside which is optimizedfor a very low crossover point in such a small chassis withoutsacrificing sensitivity in the low region of the response. This badboy has it all! Looks! Comfort! And Concert Level Sound! The passivecrossover has 5 components more than any other in its league. With thetwo acoustic filters and a second order crossover, the LF has a 24 dBper octave rolled off at 1 kHz. Why so low? Everyone else seems tocrossover above the vocal region but we wanted to eliminateIntermodulation Distortion (IMD) so we have removed the kick drum andbass tones from the tweeter so the diaphragm can concentrate on silkyhighs without movement from the LF signal. This also allows us to takeadvantage of the shape of the crossover for additional EQ in themidrange. The vocals are so natural that this high end IEM won'tfatigue your ears like most designs can. But my favorite part is theBASS. I use to have a regional touring pro sound system for liveperformance applications. I had eight 18 inch 1000 watt drivers justfor the subs, so I don't have to tell you how much I can appreciategood clean bass. Image hearing headphones flat BELOW the musicalbandwidth. There is no limitation to the bass. I just wish it wouldshake my pant legs like my pro system did. I encourage everyone to trythis product before the buy any other. You will find that the moneywas well spent. Sowhat type of HP do you need? You will have to be the judge, but youwill need to keep in mind that there is a reason why there is largerange of prices. The number of arms does make a difference for the IEheadphone family. Why don't you stick it in your ears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornbeams Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Hi Once I figured out how to fit them (took about 2 months!) I was really pleased with my Custom 1s bought to replace sennheiser cx300. They were more comfortable and the sound was detailed and had good bass. However, I lost one ear tip and couldn't get a replacement. In frustration one day I bought a pair of custom 2s on the web having found a very good price. The difference was really significant, the sound opened up with a better sound stage, in particular it seemed to be able to cope better with the varied sounds on my ipod. For example, listening to a quiet welsh male voice choir track I jumped at the finale when the full glory hit me. The custom 1s would not have had the dynamic range to take me unawares. AB PS Many thanks to the team after loads of correspondence my ear tips have now arrived, PPS I just wish I could afford to buy some Custom 3s to compare again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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