Help with tuning please

[larbel]

Hi guys, I'm new to the world of Klipsch and fairly new to HT as well. I recently purchased the following setup:

Marantz SR7002, RF-62, RC-62, RS-42 and RW-10d

I run autosetup on the Marantz and have Audyssey EQ turned on... My problem is the sound isn't really want I've expected, I can't really tell the presence of the surrounds and the bass seem lacking the punch needed... I never demo the RF-62/RC-62 but I did demo the RF-64 and RC-64 and I bet that's one of the reason why I think I have a problem

Anyway, my question is, I read somewhere that all speakers should be set to "small" when there is a sub. But having it set at "small" meaning no bass coming out from the RF-62, would I be better off to have bass from both the RF-62 and the sub?

And I'm using PS3 as the BD player, there doesn't seem to be much option for surround mode on the 7002 when playing PS3 BD, only THX Auto and THX Cinema, is this correct?

The RW-10d lowpass should be set to LFE correct? And is there any special reason why most of the pictures I see here, people leave their speaker cover off? Is it just for show or there're reasons behind it? Thanks!

[wuzzzer]

Basic subwoofer settings:

Turn the crossover setting on the subwoofer itself as high as it can go - set phase to 0 - set sub's gain control to 10-11 o'clock position. {edit} If the RW-10d has digital adjustments for its gain control set it to just below the halfway point.} Subwoofer placement in a room can make a huge bearing on how much bass you hear/feel at your listening position.

I personally don't like what Audyssey does to the sound and only use it to measure speaker distance and to calibrate the levels between each speaker. Try turning it off and see what you think.

If you set your RF-62s to large and have the Marantz set to Both (which is what my 7001 calls it when both the sub and front speakers are outputting a full-range bass signal) in most instances you'll actually hear less bass. Anytime you have more than one speaker playing the same mono signal (you're sending the .1 LFE signal to three speakers as described above) bad things result such as phase cancellation. Start by setting the crossover on the Marantz to 80Hz. Listen to some bass heavy music and adjust the crossover down to 60Hz and up to 100Hz and see which setting you like best.

I would disable any lowpass settings on the RW-10d. Let your receiver handle that.

I like to see the horns/woofers of my speakers so that's why I leave my speaker grills off. Not a good idea if you have curious kids who will shove things into the horns or push in the woofer dust caps though.

Hopefully you can get everything set up the way you like! Feel free to take pictures of your setup so we can further help with speaker placement and other details!

[larbel]

Thanks for the reply, I finally got around to take picture of my current setup's positions.. I did pretty much exactly what you suggested in the first place, the autosetup result is +8db for the SW. The TV is about 14' from the sofa and the surrounds are about another 3' back from the sofa, as you can see, I don't have anywhere else I can think of to place the SW.. The cabinet to the left is supposed to act as a wall so that the bass can reflect from the SW? Right now, with the SW set at 0db, the bass is good *if* I'm standing right in front of the SW, but at seating position, for some reason the bass is loss and I just don't feel much of the punch or hums... Any ideas?? Thanks!

[Mr. RF62]

It looks as if your room has a lot of hard reflective surfaces. If it does, you may need to hang some cutains somewhere or get in to some absorption materials. Others on here know more about that. Maybe a bigger SW would fix, I myself, didn't like the 10" sub, I didn't feel it put out enough sound for me. I'm running the RF-62's as well, and have found that I like having 2 subs.

[wuzzzer]

Autosetup adjusted the sub to be +8dB? If so, raise the output level on the sub and run autosetup again.

[Islander]

Right now, with the SW set at 0db, the bass is good *if* I'm standing right in front of the SW, but at seating position, for some reason the bass is loss and I just don't feel much of the punch or hums... Any ideas??

Have you tried some other locations for the sub? If you're getting a bass null at the listening position, it suggests that the sub is in the wrong place. Try putting on something with steady bass and walk around the room, noticing where the bass is strong and where it's weak. You'll likely hear some high and low spots. Even moving your seat a bit could make all the difference.