Youngklip Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 I Think the Lexicon MC-12 Balanced is the best. I think cinepro DTC-10 is second. Can anyone tell me more. I care mostly on features. I know Krell is real good but i want the best surround modes and which one can do the most things. ------------------ Bose Suck..Period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted March 26, 2002 Share Posted March 26, 2002 You may want to check out a McIntosh MX-134. It's the first Mac I've seen that's in 7.1 . ------------------ Tom's Money Pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 LOL Close but not true,the Lexicon MC12 balanced is among the three best A/V pre/pro control units.The best? NO The very finest unit as of now is made by Madrigal or Mark Levinson to be more accurate.The Mark Levinson No. 40 Media Console is the pinnacle of pre/pro units. This two chassis unit is without equal,separate audio and video units!talk about purist aproach,its THE unit I would take with monoblock Krell 650 amps if I could spend a small mountain of cash. The other(third)best A/V pre/pro is the Krell Audio Standard control unit. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngklip Posted March 27, 2002 Author Share Posted March 27, 2002 I am not talking about purist stuff Thats why i said i want the best that does the most. Krell Standard Pre/pro cant even do DTS-ES OR EX. Thats what i want not some unit that cost $6500 that does two or three things. Lexicon can do a lot of things. Funny thing about Cinepro DTC-10 looks like Lexicon's unit. Someone is a copy cat. ------------------ Bose Suck..Period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathon Man Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Go with the lexicon. Its about 2200 bucks more than the Krell, but it will have all the features you want, and its rs-232 port allows for software upgrades for future formats. It sounds very clean and looks good to boot. ------------------ MM This message has been edited by Marathon Man on 03-27-2002 at 09:19 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j-malotky Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 The Lexicon is great. I have an MC-1. If I may ask - Why are you getting the balanced version over the unbalanced? I tried a balanced system in a two channel environmnet a few years back in it sucked. Sold the equipment and went back to an unbalanced system with short high quality interconnects which sound a lot more detailed and defined on my khorns. I do use ballanced systems in professional systems where the amps and mixers are hundreds of feet apart. There it is a must in a long haul situation. Just wondering if there have been improvments I am not aware of. Thanks, JM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted March 28, 2002 Share Posted March 28, 2002 MC-12... we need a drooling smiley! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngklip Posted March 29, 2002 Author Share Posted March 29, 2002 I think $8000 is to far out for me. What is the best at $4000 and where is the best online place to get it. Aragon or cinepro or Anthem. I would like a detail list. ------------------ Bose Suck..Period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Youngklip, Out of the three manufacturers you mentioned in the $4,000 range the only one that I have purchased from is Cinepro.Of course I have a heap of Klipsch stuff but not Aragon yet.Cinepro's DTC-10 looks good on paper.Their quality is first rate with me as far as their amps are concerned and I wanted the best for my RF-7's. Hey, I'm a Klipsch nut. The official date of availability for the processor is April 15th.I won't give them a free advertisement on this Klipsch site but the President of the company,Eric Abraham, definitely knew what he was talking about when we discussed my Klipsch Reference speakers.I bought on line but I also talked with the founder by phone without any problems. Ask for him. Good luck. BBB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 The Anthem AVM20 is currently THE pre/pro to buy. Audio quality that rivals the $10K Lexicons and features to boot. The ONLY thing it doesn't do is Logic 7. It is also one of the most upgradable pre/pro's out there. You can pick up an AVM20 for approximately $2.5K. The ONLY way I would buy a Lexicon MC12 is used and for $3000 and that would be just for the snob factor. ------------------ Fronts - KG4's Center - C6 Surrounds - S6's Sub - KSW200 Powered by - YAM995 This message has been edited by crash827 on 03-30-2002 at 04:20 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 In my pro audio bubble, Lexicon is another working horse in the pro audio farm. They are as expensive as hell, but make stuff that is beyond expectations. I really don't consider Lexicon to be snobby, just better than the rest. How much is the MC-12? Tell me more about the new Cinepro? Is it out? ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 Read some reviews of the new $899 Outlaw 950 vs. the $10K Lexicon MC12 dealing strictly with audio. They can be found on HTF. Then ask yourself if they are better than the rest. The Anthem has the same sound qualities but adds all those features we dream about because of the MC12 at a much lower price. Maybe snob wasn't the appropriate word - it just seems some 'audiophiles' feel great audio MUST come with a ridiculously high price tag or it is just mass market audio for the 'rest' of us. ------------------ Fronts - KG4's Center - C6 Surrounds - S6's Sub - KSW200 Powered by - YAM995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 In no way was I attacking you, just saying that they are expensive. Yes, there is the feeling that you have to spend a lot to get "anything." I think half the fun of this hobby is finding GOOD gear that is CHEAP. ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decibel man Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 How about the new Argon Stage One? It looks like a decent contender. THX Ultra 2! That can't be bad. It has 6.1 (which basically means 7.1 with the use of a spliter). HDTV switching. RS-232 for future upgrades. List is $4000. Ding Ding Ding ... We have a winner! Just kidding, but it looks like a nice piece of equipment. JT ------------------ Enjoy and Happy Listening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted March 31, 2002 Share Posted March 31, 2002 looks like the ACT-3 ABM are going new w/ warranty on ubid. how about that & get the new upgrade in a few months? should total less than $2K. though upgrades after that could be questionable. that's the route i would have went if i kept my acurus 200FIVE. if i had the patience to wait that is. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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