The Dude Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I have been tossing around the idea of using my Fortes for surrounds instead of my Heresies for my surrounds. I originally was building a all Heritage ht with Khorns, and Lascala for the front 3, now I just need to decide which to use for my surrounds. One of the reasons I was pondering the idea is I am currently using my Fortes in my 2 channel setup, not that I think no speaker is to big for any room I just feel its a little over kill in the 10x10 room they are in. I will be getting my H.H. Scott 299 redone some day which I think using the Heresies would sound great and if I wanted more bass I could through in a small sub with the unpowered center channel on the Scott. Plus they wouldn't be so big, now using the Fortes I would build platforms to raise them up to desired surround speaker placement. Any thoughts recommendations, greatly appreciated. Thanks Nick If I do stay with the Heresies for surrounds I will be looking at tradeing my Fortes for some Heresies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 11, 2011 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2011 One time when Groomlake was here we put a Heresy ll and a Forte ll on a table connected as L & R to compare, the sound overall, they were not much different at all. In the overall sound it was very close, I don't think it would make much difference for you HT and it would give you a better size for the smaller room, I would try it. I'm not saying they sound just alike but closer than you would think, especially in the midrange and high frequencies. Now remember these Heresys were gone over by Marshal, so they were perfect, sealed air tight and everything as originally designed, he is very specific as how it should be and doing it correctly. [Y] By the way Groomlake gave my Grandson that pair which was his first Klipsch ever, H ll, Oak Oil in perfect condition. I owe him big and will get even one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 IMHO Heresy would be a better choice than Forte. Heresy has the same tweeter and squawker driver as the rest of your stuff. Forte doesn't. Some folks wouldn't notice the difference in timbre. I would. Maybe you would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Heresy surrounds would be better match for Heritage Home Theatre. Originally I build my Home Threatre with La Scala fronts, Heresy center and Heresy surrounds and the whole system matched up quite nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 ...we put a Heresy ll and a Forte ll on a table...they were not much different at all. One would expect them to sound very much the same. But that is irrelevant to OP who is trying to match the timbre of speakers with K77 tweeter and K55 squawker driver (unless the Khorns are really old). Neither a Heresy II nor a Forte II would be optimal. A Heresy is a better match hands down because Heresy uses the same tweeter and squawker driver (with the exception of the last couple years) while the Forte has different tweeter and squawker driver. FWIW I replaced two Heresys I was using as surrounds in a HT system because they were late models ones with the K53 squawker driver and I found the difference in timbre between them the others which had K55s annoying when sounds panned around the room. But like I said above, some folks might not notice a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 well than to throw a wrench in all that theroy, The Khorns and Lascala are not stock. So unless I build the Heresy or Forte like the Khorn and Lascala I don't think it will matter that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Now you tell us. All bets are off. What do you have for tweeters and squawker drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted September 12, 2011 Moderators Share Posted September 12, 2011 I didn't think it would have made that much difference being surrounds, I don't know if I could hear the difference ? But after thinking about it I realize I heard the two side by side, but never compared to what would be used for the fronts. Big difference, that's the real question I skipped over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Now you tell us. All bets are off. What do you have for tweeters and squawker drivers? Altec 511b with k-55 driver, and Selenium hm17-25 horns with the d220ti drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 My guess is since you are still using a K55 driver for the squawker, a Heresy will be a better match in the midrange where the ear is most sensitive, for the reasons mentioned before. But I suspect the tweeter in the Forte might be a better match for the tweeter though if your high frequency hearing is good. I think you are going to have to try both if you can and see what works best for you. FWIW you are hardly trying to match to either a Klipschorn or a LaScala... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 I agree this will give me a good weekend project I wonder if I should update caps before doing so you know I could always customize the Heresies with the tweeter and it would be a better match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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