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In most situations, I think dual RW-12d's would be a good choice for the budget minded setup. I don't think the RW-12d is a significant upgrade over the Sub12. Better sound and build quality yes just not a big jump in performance. For $1500.00 max, dual Epik Empires will rock your room.

Get dual RW-12d's if you want to use the savings to upgrade somewhere else but you will not get the low, low, low end ooomph that the twin Empires will provide.

Bill

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I would take 1 epik or ed over the dual rw12d, the 12d's lack real depth, for 1500 and going with a 1 sub solution I'd go for the rythmik or ed's a7 350/450

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV15HP.html

dual solutions would be one of the 2 sets

dual empires (you'll pay shipping on these as well so no 1 dollar saved) http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/empire.html

dual a5-350 http://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php?cPath=2_41

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$1500???

If your listening area isn't huge, here is your sub!!!

http://app.audiogon.com/listings/jl-audio-f110-gloss-black--14

http://www.jlaudio.com/f110-gloss-home-audio-fathom-powered-subwoofers-96107

One reviewer writes of his JL f110s "I will live with these until the end of time" - LOL!

Outside of Velodyne, I don't think you'll find a better sub on the market than JL.

Or even better, if you could scratch together another $350, Audiogon has a f113 for sale for $1850, which is an absolute steal.

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JL is hard to beat, but here is a sub that you can buy new at about the amount you want to spend.

http://www.svsound.com/view-all?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=15

It doeosn't look like the classic sub you are used to, but trust me, it will do the work!

edit: I see subxero said this right off the bat, but mentioned buying two of them. I am afraid your house may come down if you take that advice. [:)]

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the JL subs are great but to me WAY overpriced. They are only using their car subs (that are great) but still you could buy one of those the W7 series and build a box and amp and you would be there if you are good at that kind of stuff.

There are plenty of other brands that will give you more than enough bass before you go spend $1500+ on 1 10 or 12 inch sub...

Like many have said, I would go with the SVS brand if you have plenty of room/space. Those subs are great and put out some real home theater bass for their price.

The only reason I got rid of mine is because my life changed (1 baby and 1 on the way in 2 months) so I had to downsize my speaker setup in our living room.

good luck though - if you have $1500 to spend on a sub I really dont think you can screw up too easy!

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Some would say "You pay for what you get". I for one would never pay full retail for one, as you can generally pick them up on the used market for 1/2 price or better. Assuming you did buy a JL amp / sub and built a cabinet, you still wouldn't be 'there'. The fathoms are packed with features that you can't put together in your garage. I have never heard the SVS, but have also heard very good things about them. For my money, JL or Velodyne is the only place I will invest in subs. A good sub should play much louder than you ever would want to listen. Every sub I have owned or listened to, I ended up turning up the gain or volume, generally to the point that it would sometimes distort at dynamic peaks. The JL fathom 113 is the only sub I have ever had where 95% of the time the volume of the sub itself and the E.L.F. boost isn't turned up AT ALL. And then when you do turn it up, it is incredibly loud but still doesn't distort. The sub is amazingly accurate for both music and HT applications, something that can't be said for under powered, ported (tuned) cabinet subs. However, all of this is pure personal preference. To me, bass and a good sub is far and away the most important feature to any HT or stereo system, but I am sure that isn't the case for everyone. ousig is absolutely right, for $1500, you should have no problem getting a good sub to suit your needs.

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