lilred8150 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 would like to get some input on a home system to build, i'm starting from scratch, i like watching movies and listening to music equally, i really want the better then movie theater sound and the live sound of music. what are some suggestions you may have. thanks in advance red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 budget, the most important question. what do you have right now? ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilred8150 Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 i would like to spend no more then $15,000 and i have nothing right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flason Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Damn Red, 15 G's will buy you a helluva system. You can find your Klipschorns as mains, Hersey's as surrounds and centers for under 3 grand total on e-bay. That leaves 12 grand for the rest of the goodies. You should have enough for a good Lazyboy and a 12 pack of your favorite adult beverage when it's all said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DillonW Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 A few other questions come to mind... What is the room size, and is it dedicated to music/HT? Does this room have windows, doors or other arcitecual items that limit what you can do? What type of video display would you prefer? Give some details on exactly what you want and where you intend to put it. Most of us have probably already dreamed of what we would do with that kind of budget. ------------------ Thanks, Bill Primary HTS Mains: Black La Scalas Rears: Walnut Belles Center: Black KLF C7 Rear Center: None Yet Front Effects: None Yet Sub: Velodyne CT-150 Extra: Black Chorus IIs Receiver: Yamaha RXV3000 TV: HD Toshiba 61" 61H70 DVD: Sony DVP-S560D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 $15,000? I managed to get a bid for a full HT that was really cool, RF-7's, SVS sub, 180inch screen, receiver, etc etc etc. ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflash Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 What is the size of your room? 50% HT and 50% Music? Is there a Better Half factor about speaker size and what they look like. One room for HT and another for just music? Klipsch will give you exactly what you want, but have you listened to any Klipsch speakers before? You will either love them or hate them. Need to know alittle more. Welcome to the BB. You will get alot of good info. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilred8150 Posted August 20, 2002 Author Share Posted August 20, 2002 the room is 12 x 15 no windows its a basement, it will be for music and ht, i would like to use a hdtv from mitsubishi,and lucky me the Better Half factor is like me, she likes big and loud and sound good. thanks for all the input so far, but i am looking for specific components and speakers that would go great together and produce the quality that i want. justin what does the bid you did have for components and what was the actaul price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 quote: Originally posted by lilred8150: justin what does the bid you did have for components and what was the actaul price I was holding it just yesterdya when i wa son teh phone with them... lets see where i put it....... ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 ok found it. only it is missing the screen and the projector, which are on another bill. BTW, in the home theater forum there is a thread by avman (i think) about a new projector that really rocks without a huge price tage. screen's are from $800-2000. here is the bid i got, i had to put down a $500 downpayment. i also have a 10% discount to be added to that, i don't know why the total total is lower than the subtotal, but i did not argue. BTW< i did NO haggling with this. ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjohnsonhp Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 From a video display perspective I recommend you read the tutorial at the following site: http://www.projectorpeople.com Since your room is in the basement you should be able to make it nice and dark. Projectors can be an issue upstairs with lots of light...although they are getting brighter. You can spend a lot on a display system and with technology changing and evolving to HDTV depreciation and obsolence are an issue...especially compared to the Klipsch Horn speakers which have been basically the same longer than many of us have been alive. There you might retain or appreciate in value. $4-7K for a projector seems to be popular but the better ones are $10K-15K+ (and dropping). The technology seems to be: LCD (good), DLP (better) and (CRT best $20K+) with DLP looking like the sweet spot. Based on your room size you may be happy with a nice rear projection Big Screen. I like the Pioneer Elite 60-something-inch screen. I've seen nice Plasma screens but at the moment they seem new and twice the price. I absolutely love my 50" Pioneer I bought a few years ago for around $3k. This board will tell you all about the Klipsch Heritage line, and the K-Horns, etc. seem like an oustanding value. I would compare that to a few other speaker systems. Gather up your favorite DVD's, CD's and obscure lps and head out to the stores to listen. Since your spending a nice amount of funds and buying retail, I would make the experience educational and enjoyable. I'd do a lot of comparative listening and include a few things just for fun outside your budget. I'd certainly listen to several different technologies. The Martin Logan electrostic hybrids would be an expensive but fun setup to test. I'm trying to put my money into display and speakers with a lower percentage focused on electronics. I'm trying to use a 7.1 receiver like a Denon 3802 and a moderate priced DVD. In summary I would focus on finding a HT specialist that will design a system to fit your room and help you install it properly to get the most out of your funds and technology. For speaker selection I'd do a lot of listening at the shops using your favorite software so the speakers match your tastes. I also highly recommend you subscribe to netflix.com so you have a continuous supply of DVD's flowing through your house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 want some videophile help? here you go quote: Originally posted by maxg: OK - I am now sitting with the videophile. His input is as follows: 1. If the room is completely dark, you dont mind big bulky projectors hanging from the ceiling and you want the best possible picture then CRT is the route to go. There are 2 negatives being a) maintenance (convergence every 6 months, tweaking etc.) and cost. 2. CRT is catgorically the best picture you can get from a projector for a home theatre. You shopuld look at entry level 7 inch Barco's or Runco (which you mentioned). These are very expensive here in Europe - we do not know the prices in the US. 3. If you want high resolution on a CRT projector (ie for HDTV or DVD signal via PC/processor) you will need to go to larger CRT units like the 9 inch CRT's. These cost in Europe nearer $30,000 on their own. (Note : "This is pure heaven" according to the gushing videophile at my side). 4. The big advantage of CRT is the length of time you can comfortably watch movies and TV. They are not as wearing as DLP and LCD. 5. With CRT's the screen you need to get should have a maximum gain of 1.5 (gain is the amount of reflection that the screen provides). For LCD's and DLP's this gain should be much lower (less than 1). In some cases the screens are even grey rather than white for DLP/LCD projectors. 6. This brings us to the most important point for picture quality. CRT's and only CRT's have true black's. DLP's and LCD's can only produce grey at best. Try watching Blade Runner or the Crow on LCD and apparently you will chuck all over your trousers. 7. Only CRT's have true colour reproduction (DLP's are however catching up on this). The best illustration of this effect is skin tone which can be very annoying if not produced correctly. 8. For DLP's - if you decide to go this route anyway. The great advantage they have is that they are a point and shoot type setup and newer ones can now handle high resolutions such as HDTV. Therefore they are portable and have low maintenance. DLP's also have very good color reproduction, far better than LCD. Their images can be very highly detailed but there are some major disadvantages. 9. If you have astigmatism as a viewer you will find the picture unwatchable due to the infamous raindbow effect. This is a flashing of colours in certain sections of the screen. This can completely draw your attention. 10. The newer DLP's such as the SIM2 HT300 have managed to virtually eliminate the rainbow effect but becaus this is purely a personal matter you need to personally audition the DLP players yourself to be absolutely sure one way or another. 11. LCD has the infamous screen door effect creating a pixilated net over the image. This coupled with poor colour reproduction takes LCD totally out of the list for this videophile. It is, however, usually the cheapest option of the 3. In summary for a budget of $15,000 or greater only DLP or CRT should be considered. If size of the unit is an issue/portability then DLP is the only option (subject to an audition for the rainbow effect). Apologies for the layout of this note - he was dictating to me as I type. Hopefully you got all the info. Let me know if you have any more questions. ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilred8150 Posted August 25, 2002 Author Share Posted August 25, 2002 Thanks for all the great info, if I was going to use a rf-7 for front center with a 60" mitsubishi what is the best way to do it, if you can do it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 lets see, 4 RSW-15's, one for each corner, RF-7's for every channle, and that still leaves you $5504 to play around with! ------------------ -the forum prowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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