willland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks everyone! Yea it is bugging me a lot after knowing there are two dimples on my new purchase. But I guess I got no other options as it might be not considered as defective? I hate to say it but this is probably going to happen again in the future. If you even look at those cones funny they sprout a dimple. I personally wouldn't consider it to be defective at all but can certainly understand wanting a new and expensive item to be absolutely flawless in every way. I baby my stuff like crazy and have one on one of my 10's. I agree, even though I hate this type of thing most in the world, it is still gonna come lots of time in my life. I just replaced that driver with the one seller sent to me, the new driver has the same model and it's a perfect fit. But the date this new driver was manufactured is in 2013, 2 years earlier than the drivers on my speaker (2015). And it also has slightly darker bronze color on the dust cap. Do you think different year make drivers can work together perfectly like a new speaker? If the same part number, then it should work perfectly. Now if the color shade difference will drive you more nuts than the dimples, then switch it back. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks everyone! Yea it is bugging me a lot after knowing there are two dimples on my new purchase. But I guess I got no other options as it might be not considered as defective? I hate to say it but this is probably going to happen again in the future. If you even look at those cones funny they sprout a dimple. I personally wouldn't consider it to be defective at all but can certainly understand wanting a new and expensive item to be absolutely flawless in every way. I baby my stuff like crazy and have one on one of my 10's. I agree, even though I hate this type of thing most in the world, it is still gonna come lots of time in my life. I just replaced that driver with the one seller sent to me, the new driver has the same model and it's a perfect fit. But the date this new driver was manufactured is in 2013, 2 years earlier than the drivers on my speaker (2015). And it also has slightly darker bronze color on the dust cap. Do you think different year make drivers can work together perfectly like a new speaker? If the same part number, then it should work perfectly. Now if the color shade difference will drive you more nuts than the dimples, then switch it back. Bill The color shade doesn't really bother me, if 2 year earlier part work with others like perfect. I am happy with that :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think you are way overthinking this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think you are way overthinking this After watching one movie, it sounds great! I guess I can stop overthinking this now :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 With time, they will all approach the same color due to fading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 Now you can simply sit back and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 With time, they will all approach the same color due to fading. I found these woofers rarely move, but almost all the sound is from tweeter. That because center only handle dialogue probably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Now you can simply sit back and enjoy.Yea, finally! Now I'm overthinking on having a better receiver, has preout so I can add amp later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 With time, they will all approach the same color due to fading. I found these woofers rarely move, but almost all the sound is from tweeter. That because center only handle dialogue probably? My RC-64 gets a huge workout with movies and not with just dialog. Many movie effects are funneled through the center channel. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 With time, they will all approach the same color due to fading. I found these woofers rarely move, but almost all the sound is from tweeter. That because center only handle dialogue probably? My RC-64 gets a huge workout with movies and not with just dialog. Many movie effects are funneled through the center channel. Bill Maybe the movie I watched is too gentle on mid low frequency, try something else later. But for Rf7 system, do you think we need extra amp? I'm running with HK 1710, bought many years ago, didn't think of upgrading at that time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 I found these woofers rarely move, but almost all the sound is from tweeter. That because center only handle dialogue probably? That is typical of the Reference Series. They do not move a ton...even my RF-7's being driven by 200 wpc. Maybe the movie I watched is too gentle on mid low frequency, try something else later. If you are expecting them to move in and out 2" - 3" you might be disappointed. Sit back and enjoy them...or you are going to make yourself sick thinking something is wrong with them. But for Rf7 system, do you think we need extra amp? "Need"....no...."Benefit"....yes..."Night and Day"....no...."Good Idea"...yes.....confused yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 But for Rf7 system, do you think we need extra amp? I'm running with HK 1710, bought many years ago, didn't think of upgrading at that time If your room is 9' x 9' and you don't like your movies loud, I say you would not "need" an outboard amp. If larger and loud, absolutely. I am all for outboard amplification for Klipsch Reference systems especially in a high volume room. Dynamics, headroom, dynamics, headroom. I personally will never go back to just an AVR in my current room. Bedroom setup, fine without, but 5600ft3 family room/kitchen/kitchen nook, no way. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 But for Rf7 system, do you think we need extra amp? I'm running with HK 1710, bought many years ago, didn't think of upgrading at that time If your room is 9' x 9' and you don't like your movies loud, I say you would not "need" an outboard amp. If larger and loud, absolutely. I am all for outboard amplification for Klipsch Reference systems especially in a high volume room. Dynamics, headroom, dynamics, headroom. I personally will never go back to just an AVR in my current room. Bedroom setup, fine without, but 5600ft3 family room/kitchen/kitchen nook, no way. Bill Haha, my room is the one with kitchen and all the hight ceiling hallway, kind of large and irregular. I usually don't like loud, but wanna have dynamic and more headroom feeling. Which amp you are using for your system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Haha, my room is the one with kitchen and all the hight ceiling hallway, kind of large and irregular. I usually don't like loud, but wanna have dynamic and more headroom feeling. IMO, dynamics/headroom in a large room does "need" some quality amplification. Which amp you are using for your system? I am driving my front soundstage and surrounds with an Acurus A200/A200x3 combo. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 I personally will never go back to just an AVR in my current room. I've owned 3 different amps for my HT....Parasound HCA2205a (220 x 5), then a B&K 700.2 (200 x 7) and then a Sherbourn (200 x 7). They all sounded great (didn't hear any difference between the three amps). They made a difference with my previous RF-83 / RC-64 but I did not hear a difference once I upgraded my fronts to LaScalas. They are just ridiculously efficient and my ears will give out before the receiver reaches it's peak. Plus the LaScalas do not dig near as deep as the RF-83's did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 wanna have dynamic and more headroom feeling. Not sure you can "feel" headroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 Headroom helps prevent your amp receiver from clipping and sending distortion to your speakers. You can clip without actually hearing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwone Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 All the amps you guys mentioned I haven't even heard of, neither can find a place to buy online. Lol. I still have lots to try and learn, upgrading is not easy considering wife factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 All the amps you guys mentioned I haven't even heard of Parasound and B&K have been around for awhile. Emotiva is a newer company and has great amps too as does Outlaw Audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 8, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2016 Parasound Dealer - http://www.audioadvisor.com/Amplifiers-Multichannel/products/10/ I believe B&K went out of business. I have only owned used amps myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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