oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Speak for yourself. And there is a big difference in an old person who passes vs someone who hasn't had a chance to live. So says jweber. Really? So you are willing to make a judgment about the worth of one life against another? This is a nice can of worms now innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 And of course I speak for myself. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Sure I do. I have but one life and don't hold much stock in any after. Still, I would give the rest of the only one I get for my kids. I would risk it for others. Pffft. I would risk it just to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Speak for yourself. And there is a big difference in an old person who passes vs someone who hasn't had a chance to live. So says jweber. Really? So you are willing to make a judgment about the worth of one life against another? This is a nice can of worms now innit? That's too easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 That's good. If you would risk it for the old lady as easily as you would a youngster (keeping family out of it) then you get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 So would you just let the old lady go because as you said there is a big difference between her and the less gator wary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Speak for yourself. And there is a big difference in an old person who passes vs someone who hasn't had a chance to live. So says jweber. Really? So you are willing to make a judgment about the worth of one life against another? This is a nice can of worms now innit? That's too easy To expand on the simplicity of who decides: There is a large difference in the cycle of life (out with the old(timers) and in with the ones who've not enjoyed life, yet / vs a young person's life cut short due to misfortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So would you just let the old lady go because as you said there is a big difference between her and the less gator wary? In your example, there is a lifew time difference in the old lady vs the child. If one is to go, who should it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 There are people who live more life in 20 years than people who live to for 80. Some of us never thought we would live as long as we have so we didn't take very good care of ourselves. That's another story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 So would you just let the old lady go because as you said there is a big difference between her and the less gator wary? In your example, there is a lifew time difference in the old lady vs the child. If one is to go, who should it be? It's not so much who should it be, it is who gets to decide, and why should they get to be the one to decide. In the case of the toddler, the gator decides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) So would you just let the old lady go because as you said there is a big difference between her and the less gator wary? In your example, there is a life time difference in the old lady vs the child. If one is to go, who should it be? It's not so much who should it be, it is who gets to decide, and why should they get to be the one to decide. In the case of the toddler, the gator decides. Are we talking of one's rationale is of the level of the gator, just stirring the pot or a fidiot? Edited June 16, 2016 by jweber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 So would you just let the old lady go because as you said there is a big difference between her and the less gator wary? In your example, there is a lifew time difference in the old lady vs the child. If one is to go, who should it be? It's not so much who should it be, it is who gets to decide, and why should they get to be the one to decide. In the case of the toddler, the gator decides. You said I get to be the who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 I didn't say you get to be the one, I merely asked for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 I didn't say you get to be the one, I merely asked for your opinion. Sorry, the word "let" got me all excited. It is what it is: I wish there was only the cycle of life and long lives at that. Having the "chance / risk"...I believe we value life more, especially the vulnerability death at a young age, we treasure our children, more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Yep. The old guy/g.al with all their collective wisdom get the shaft. And people (usually the younger types) wonder how it has all gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 How did they get the shaft? They had a long life. Is it more deserving for a young person with less wisdom to die? We all pay the price for living, disirregardlessness. The counter mindset to what I'm saying is that when under attack, use kids as shields and save the old and wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 It's always sad when a family member dies. We just had a massacre in Orlando. Next there is a toddler taken by a gator. This toddler was deprived of growing up to be gay and then slaughtered in a gay bar massacre. Every turkey dies, but not every turkey truly lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Both of my parents have DNR orders filed, and are thankful that Death With Dignity is only one state away. In this example, I hope THEY decide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 The counter mindset to what I'm saying is that when under attack, use kids as shields and save the old and wise. LOL. That's not the worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Both of my parents have DNR orders filed, and are thankful that Death With Dignity is only one state away. In this example, I hope THEY decide. Forget it, these two are playing tennis and we are just bystanders. Mom is in the hospital right now with a DNR on her wrist. Brain cancer and she is a heart patient. We just go day to day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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