Smallish Room Update-Klipschorns

[Duane]

Hi Folks,

Yikes!!!!! Purchased the KHorns today and they sound great-but not in the house yet!! Will rent the smallest enclosed Uhaul next week for transport upright-they are only about ten miles away. Listened to a Glenn Gould for sibilance and my ears did not hear it, and Toots & Maytalls for bass and both sound superrrrrrrrr!! Serial # is 21Y028 on one, which I believe is 1982 but must be a late year model as it has the AK2 crossover. I understand the AA is preferable, but c'est la vie! Grills are perfect with just some surface marks on the bottom of right speaker. I plan to put them on dollies temporarily and perhaps pavers underneath when I get the old stuff out. Being located in hurricane country I want them up a bit if some water creeps into the condo. Not sure how the pavers might affect the sound-so not putting wood underneath as it absorbs water. Any suggestions?They will be in the corners so placement should be perfect!

 

Mallette-unfortunately this end of the room has the only two corners available

 

garyrc-will put up a curtain soon or later and will try some sort of difussion by experimenting.

 

billybob-yes minimalist to start

 

SWL-a new rug will be first and then yes, experimenting.

 

Thanks for all your suggestions-will post pics when in house!

 

Regards,

 

Duane in Clearwater

[avguytx]

All you had to do was post a reply in your original thread versus starting another. That way it's more documented. 

[garyrc]

6 hours ago, Duane said:

I understand the AA is preferable, but c'est la vie!

 

Crossovers

The matching of the crossover to the particular drivers may be important.  For instance, the K-55 midrange has gone through a model V, a V with a different phase plug, an M and an X.   There were several woofers over the years (the Klipschorn's bass bin and folded bass horn reduced distortion they all would have had in a lesser bass bin design).  Klipsch crossovers (Klipsch called them "balancing networks") have some, presumably gentle, EQ (Roy Delgado, Klipsch engineer, said he could not remember any balancing networks that did not have some EQ).   If the EQ was applied to address characteristics of a given driver, it seems to me you would want a crossover with that particular EQ.

 

Elevation/pavers

Klipschorns are designed to use the floor reflection as part of the bass loading, and PWK did not like speakers elevated off the floor.

 

BUT, you don't want them wet!

 

Has that room ever flooded?

 

Are you thinking of elevating the Khorns by the height of just 1 paver thickness?   You could try comparing the bass and the

bass--treble balance with and without.

 

If you must elevate, something that does not make any cavities under the Khorns (like pavers rather than dolly/wheels) would be better, particularly where the two side facing grilles are, and across the front.  The Khorns must be pushed all the way into the corners, and "sealed" into it.  Some people use pipe insulation (foam -- is closed celled foam available?).

 

 

An Abstract PWK wrote :

 

Good audio sound quality in stereophonic reproduction may be summarized in the "eight cardinal points of loudspeakers," which are: 1) minimal distortion, 2) optimum size, 3) avoidance of rattles, 4) avoidance of shadows, 5) avoidance of cavities, 6) wide spacing, 7) proper number, and 😎 toe-in. 

[Duane]

Hi garyrc,

 

No the condo has not been affected by outside weather conditions-lucky!! Though I am in the flood zone and if push comes to shove I am out!! The dollies are just for a few weeks till I move everything around or out. Pavers or larger patio stepping stones or something else-just an idea and yes just a few inches or so in height. Thanks for mentioning no cavities underneath.. I am on the first floor so just thinking ahead. I will look further into exactly what is inside the speakers when they come in next week.

 

Regards,

 

Duane in Clearwater