BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I mentioned before about the Michaelson & Austin TVA-1 tube amp but I was unsure of the preamp. It's the matching M&A TVP-1. Here they are and they're ready to go. I'm looking to power my khorns. Should I jump and if so roughly how much should I offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 British guys that supposely made some sweet sounding stuff. What do you know about them? Define "ready to go". Have you heard them? Great sound, poor reliability. Seems you got some great feedback on Audiogon already. I would stay away. More power than you need anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 dean that feedback is from someone who I never even had a transaction with. Audiogon has a very poor feedback system. In turn, I left that person with a -4 feedback as well. Too bad we don't even know each other but have screwed up each others feedback rating. How can they allow anyone to leave anyone a feedback without even being in a transaction? I haven't heard these M&A pieces yet. It would be a leap of faith which is why I'm asking you all. The owner is a tech and has done some repair work to the pieces. He said they're ready to go (plug n play) now. We haven't spoken price yet. I think I want them but need some coaxing or ....not, before I jump. -mr fickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Crap Don, I'm sorry. I meant to say Audioasylum. I saw the thread over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 Sheesh ...I guess I got "great" feedback everywhere! HAHA!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I think you need this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 sal I have a feeling that's a wee bit out of my price range. Very nice looking though! The TVA-1 amp looks smallish in that pic. From the info I can find on the internet it weighs about 80 lbs. That's no small potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 No wires. I wouldn't buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 dean, didn't anyone tell ya? it's a wireless future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Yeah, and that's from the same company that made Dean's amp... before they changed the name! heh... kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hee hee. Yeah, I've renamed mine The Flamary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 dean you said I don't need that much power but I think you're wrong ...I do. I'm listening to steve winwoods highlife CD now with this 17WPC fisher x-100-3 amp ...and while it sounds good at reasonable volumes ...the bass punch pretty much falls out at anything above 1/2 volume. The woofers sound like butterfly wings amplified 100 times when I push them. No authority whatsoever ..they're just lost flapping back and forth. With the 200wpc dynaco I could easily overpower the woofers. When I did they would snap, crackle and pop. I really don't think 70wpc tube amplification is "too much". Afterall, the Khorns have a rated max of 100W. You guys that are using 3 watt monoblocks are missing a lot of sound. There's no freakin way 3 watts is going to give you any kind of real bass at volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 maybe that fisher sucks...I get pants flappin' bass with my wimpy little 2A3-based amps and I have compared it with my 100watt McIntosh amplifier, I like the slam and warmth of my flea amps better...tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBusa Posted November 10, 2003 Author Share Posted November 10, 2003 I had an idea that would be the excuse ...I mean, rationalization ...from the low watt camp. Maybe it's true ...maybe this 17wpc fisher amp does "suck". On the other hand ...there's no way a pair of klipschorns will give "pant flapping bass". I don't care what you're driving them with, how close you're standing or how big your bell-bottoms are. That's a gross exaggeration and shouldn't be used to describe Khorn bass. 3 entries found for exaggeration. ex·ag·ger·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-zj-rt) v. ex·ag·ger·at·ed, ex·ag·ger·at·ing, ex·ag·ger·ates v. tr. To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate: exaggerate the size of the enemy force; exaggerated his own role in the episode. To enlarge or increase to an abnormal degree: thick lenses that exaggerated the size of her eyes. v. intr. To make overstatements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I am listening to a very famous List Fantasia & Fugue, played on the 115 rank Walcker/Aeolian-Skinner organ at Methuen, MA. It shakes the house. The principals and mixtures are clean & sweet. The speakers are RF-7s and the amp is a pp using KT66s, triode, no feedback. I doubt the amp puts out over 8 Watts .. maybe 10, but not more than that. What do people do with 200 Watts? leok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I did not realize I was in the low watt camp since I have a few bigger watt amps...I simply don't have them connected to the k-horns because they do not benefit from the additional wattage in my system, as I mentioned before. Sorry your k-horns don't produce decent bass, I assure you they can produce bass in some systems...my bell bottoms often flap. Perhaps some other klipschorn owners, with the kind of amps you respect (over 100 watts), can chime is here and confirm or deny if their klipschorns produce adequate bass or not. I think you should get yourself some big wattage amps and a couple of subwoofers to compliment your klipschorns to get the sound you are searching for. It is obvious that the bass-weak klipschorns and flea amps won't do it for ya. I would also recommend staying away from mediocre vintage amplifiers, perhaps sticking to krell exclusively. Thanks for the English lesson as well, I had no idea what exaggeration meant. Regards, Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Spelling !!! Franz Liszt (not List) Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Someday we will have to enter into a discussion regarding the construction of our listening rooms. All of my bass drops through the wood floors and lands on my poor wife's head!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leok Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Nobody else is home right now. leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Dean I think you are quite right, room, other system components, music preference all affect our opinions. In my case; Concrete slab floors with marble tile, cinder block-rebar walls...all my speaker sound is being projected out into the room not absorbed by floors and walls in sympathetic vibration...I suspect that is why I get to squeeze every ounce (watt) out of the k-horns. "Bell bottom's flappin" Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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