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Question on Transformer Operating Temperature


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I have a question on how hot people's transformers operate at on your tube amps. And what are they supposed to operate at.

You can see the amps I have below. I never measured degrees, but I have no cabinets on either amp and I always get grabby with the 3 transformers just to make sure melt down is not imminent.

Both of my amps seem to have similar temps between them, so I figure I am OK. I can put my hands on the output transformers and after say around 5 seconds, you definitely want to take your hand off. I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 130- 150 F.

I am doing this with the equipment operating for 3-4 hours and loudness set around 11-12 o'clock. Definitely "in use".

Here's why I post this and ask.

I have nothing but CD players connected directly to each amp. Last night I introduced a DBX-1215 EQ. Just by connecting the thing and barely using any gain at all, and I mean nill (sitting on 0), the transformers cooled down tremendously.

They operated so cool in fact I was pretty shocked, and wondered if maybe my CD players did not have enough juice, or if I was over taxing the amps. They operated just barely warm. Seemed right.

Anyhow, I was able to actually improve the sound as well with the DBX, while cooling down the amp. I know I must have added some gain, but it couldn't have been much.

I know I'll take a distortion beating here, but I have to say, the DBX is a neat toy if used in fine moderation. Especially since my upstairs great room is in "Christmas setup" configuration.

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Mark,

RCA jacks from CD player out to EQ in. Then from EQ out to Scott 299 tape in.

The EQ has a bass cutoff filter but that is all. This filter is an 18 DB/octave cutout filter for below 40 Hz. This filter is turned off, I'm sure.

There are no other features on it that I can think of besides a bunch of LED indicators for various conditions.

Let me rephrase what I originally stated. The Scott didn't actually cool down from a hot temperature.

It just doesn't get hot at all with this EQ in the system. I typically check the transformers here and there throughout the night, and those things were barely warm last night when normally they are much hotter.

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98,103,123

The temps on one of my Scott 299c amps are:

Lt OPT 98, Rt OPT 103, Power 123 after about two hours of listening.

They're going to get really hot in a couple of minutes. I just got an LP of Muddy Waters, BB King and Big Mama Thornton recorded live at Newport. Here goes....

Rick

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