edster00 Posted August 22, 2001 Share Posted August 22, 2001 eq_ (and any others who may be interested) I am not going to go into a long post about my experimenting with Khorn placement at this point in time because I am not done "fiddling" yet...but I will go so far as to say the following: FWIW I took the plunge and bought some Khorns even though I don't have "proper corners" to put them in. I am not at all disappointed. While I am sure good corners are necessary to make the Khorns "perfect" (whatever that is), corner placement is not mandatory for OUTSTANDING sound and GREAT bass. Heck, I don't have them in corners at all! In fact I will go so far as to say room dimensions are a bigger factor in getting GREAT sound out of the Khorns than corner placement is. More on this subject later, and in a different thread, but what I am trying to say is don't deprive yourselves of Khorns just because you don't have "proper corners" you don't know what you are missing ! ------------------ Ed W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 22, 2001 Author Share Posted August 22, 2001 Yea That was more of an expression of 9 beers!! It was fun, Ed sounds like you are having fun with your K-Horns!! Sounding great, id bet!! Im getting my academy soon, caint wait!! Early nite tonight LOL!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 25, 2001 Author Share Posted August 25, 2001 Im not a raging alcoholic!! Just 1nce a week LOL!!!! Man do i ever love my hobby, im getting the academy next week, or sooner i hope!! Where is Bob G.? He on vacation, or is he still there?! Man this is one rocking system i have here, just 1 pair, is pleaseable! I wasnt serious about the competion with K-Horns please forgive that statement!! I should not try to compete against my fellow BB freinds, that was dumb LOL!!! Im still thinking about getting a set of K-Horns next year, heck why not!! And you know what, when i have fun, i have fun by myself, think ill fly out to a fellow BB freind and have a good time with them!!! OK Steve, on my way LOL!!! Well, id better go, lightning!! LOL Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted August 25, 2001 Share Posted August 25, 2001 As you can see from the following listings, I am a big Klipsch fan. I love the old Heritage series for their dynamic, accurate sound especially the realism of the bass. My Klipsch THX system does a fabulous job with movies as it was designed specifically for that purpose as the Heritage was for the reproduction of music. When I watch music oriented DVDs, I use the Heritage system but when I watch regular movies especially those with special effect surround sound I prefer the THX system. I am still playing with the various Klipsch subs I have varying placement and combinations, I just moved both LF-10s into the THX system and they sound real good may try the SW12II in the rear of the THX room and with the KSW15 in the Heritage system. Actually except for the movie LFE effects I prefer the Khorn bass alone for music as it goes plenty low with a cleaness and accuracy that I have found nowhere else. HT-1 (music oriented) Klipschorns w/ ALK crossover upgrades 4 Klipsch LaScalas (surround & rears) Heresy components in custom cabinet /monitor stand (center) Panasonic 32 Monitor W/ component video input 3 Sony CX400 CD changers Sony CX-200 CD Changer MSB Technology Digital Director w/ jitter reduction Nirvis DXS digital controller (auto selection of whatever changer is playing) Nirvis Slink-e computer interface (downloads cd info, programs & controls changers). Nirvis CDJ (CD Jukebox Software) Monster 5000 Power Center (serves HT-2 also) Sony Viao Laptop Computer Sony S530D DVD Player Sony 798HF VCR Sony XA1ES CD player Sherwood HX-PRO dual cassette deck Dynaco PAS4 stereo preamp W/ Tesla Tube upgrades (also outputs to HT2) Technics SL3300 DD Turntable w/ Shure cartridges Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver Perpetual Technologies P1A Digital Correction Engine (jitter reduction, 16 to 24 bit conversion, future speaker frequency correction, and room acoustic correction ) Perpetual Technologies P3A DAC ( plus 44.1k to 96k CD upsampling) Klipsch KSW-15 sub (for DVD LFEs ) Klipsch LF-10 sub Phillips Pronto TS2000 Programmable Remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 computerized lighting controls Radio Shack Wireless Remote Control Extender Onix, MSB, Monster. AR, RS Gold Cables Monster Bi-wire speaker cable (Khorns) HT#2 (movie oriented) 4 Klipsch KT-LCR THX Speakers 4 Klipsch RS-3s (side & rear surround) 2 Klipsch KT-DS THX Surrounds 10 Linaem Tweeters Outlaw 1050 6.1 A/V Receiver/Preamp Sony X111 ES CD Player Sony 775HF VCR Sony STR-G3 (supplemental amplification for extra speakers) Toshiba 61 High Definition TV Sony NS700 Progressive Scan DVD Toshiba 4205 DVD/ CD Changer Klipsch SW-12II Sub Klipsch LF-10 sub Sony AV2100 remote Scientific American Explorer 2000 Home Communications Terminal X10 Computerized Lighting Vibrapods (vibration isolation) RS Gold, AR & Monster cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 25, 2001 Author Share Posted August 25, 2001 Wow You have some equipment!! 4 la scalas must be unreal in home theater!! Im just starting back into H/T, i still have a ways to go!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Actually, the Klipsch THX surrounds, because the are dipolar, smaller and can be mounted more closly to what one would find in a movie house produce a better effect than the LaScalas. The exception is musicals and music DVDs. The reproduction of various sound effects (explosions, car crashes, birds and planes flying off, etc) don't seem to require the same level of fidelity that music does! It seems that it is hard to determine the level of distortion in a car crash. Interesingly, I usually just use the Khorns when I play CDs - they create their own magic - but like to use the DSP reverb effects when playing music on the THX system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 Soundog.... I see you have the Outlaw 1050 6.1 Receiver. I have their 750 5 Channel Amp. If the 1050 performs as well as the 750, you've got a great receiver at an excellent price. I'm Looking forward to buyer reviews & comments on their Model 950 Preamp/Processor, after its October release. I may become a complete Outlaw convert. Wes ------------------------------------------------------- Family Room Setup NAD T 761 Receiver (Pre-outs to Outlaw) Outlaw 750 5 Channel Amp Klipsch Cornwalls (Front w/Outlaw) Klipsch Heresy's (Front w/NAD) Klipsch Academy (Center w/NAD) Klipsch Cornwall (V) II's (Rear w/Outlaw) Klipsch RS-3's (Rear w/NAD) SVS SV20-39CS SUB (NAD 2400THX Bridged) Klipsch KSW-12 (Sub) Klipsch RF-3's (NAD T 761 "B" Channel) Denon DVM-3700 DVD Sony CDP-CA80ES Sony MiniDisk Deck MDS-JE320 Mitsubishi Stereo VCR Mitsubishi 52" Wide Screen Sony Remote Commander RM-AV2100 Monster Cable HTS-3500 Audio/Video Power Conditioner Bedroom System Technics Prologic Receiver Sony DVP-530D Sony Dual Cassette Deck Phillips Magnavox 27' Klipsch Quintets (Front, Center & Surrounds) Infinity SubWoofer Family Room - Listening Only Sony Prologic Receiver STR-D1015 Sony CassetteTC-K444esII DAK Stereo Power Controller Technics Turntable SL-D2 Klipspch KG4's(Soon to be stored) Klipsch Quartet's (In Transit) Items Stored 2 EA. Klipsch KSP-S6 Surrounds 2 EA. Klipsch SS.5 Surrounds Klipsch RC-3 Center 2 EA. Quintet's Fisher 800-B Stereo Multiplex Tube Receiver (Awaiting Refurbishment $) Pioneer Receiver SX-6000 (Vintage 70's) Sony Digital Receiver STR-AV760 (80's) AKAI GX-280D Reel (4-Track) 2 EA. Pioneer CS-88A's (Vintage 70's) 2 EA. Advent Baby (Early 80's) 1 EA. Design Audio (Center Channel) 2 EA. Infinity SL Micro Speakers 2 EA. JBL ProPerformers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 26, 2001 Author Share Posted August 26, 2001 Shapeshifter I want to thank you for the info on the academy, im sending out the payment tomorrow!! 220.00 I had to grab that!! I caint wait to see this center, i heard their pretty big,! LOL Im giving these UTAH speakers away!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted August 26, 2001 Share Posted August 26, 2001 JimYou're welcome & I'm glad you got it at Great Price Too! Earlier this summer I had the good fortune to find one in black & at a great price as well. So when the offer to purchase another in black came my way, I remembered reading your thread and thought, why not give another BB Member a shot at it. I've been an avid audio enthusiast for 29 years, I'm not motivated by the profit potential, and it's still a fun, exciting and relaxing hobby for me. As best I can recall, I heard my first Klipsch speakers at the Hempstead County Fair in the very early 60's. I still remember being captivated and mesmerized by the sound coming from what I called casket speakers (forgive me, only 9 or 10 yrs. old). I now believe those were big K-Horns and the PA system speakers must have been La Scalas. I'm still looking to buy another in Walnut! Sorry about the digression, just a nostalgic blunder on my part...Wes This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 08-26-2001 at 04:07 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 27, 2001 Author Share Posted August 27, 2001 WOW You, sound dog and steve P, you guys are sitting on some money with your hobby, you all have some seroius equipment!! Next, i want to upgrade this A/V reciever!! This is just a kenwood 50 watt per channel, front rear and center reciever!! Pro logic, SRS nothing serious, but it was free!! Also, i still know where to get the SVS sub, LOL!! Id like to get the carver THX stuff, that was very nice!! Down the road, im working on the academy today, should have it by friday!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 I've heard good reports on the Carver THX equipment. Given time you'll get all you want and more. When you get those K-Horns, would you still need an SVS Sub? It's still a fun and relaxing thing for me to do. Spent the earlier part of the evening setting up and cleaning the newest arrivals, a pair of Walnut Quartets. I think I'm set for speakers now. My son has been asking about the KG4's.. Says he really would like to take them off my hands, also said he wouldn't charge me. LOL How generous....Wes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 27, 2001 Author Share Posted August 27, 2001 NA Im ganna upgrade this A/V reciever, prabably wont ever get the K-horns!! The longer i wait, maybe the less, or my luck more the carver THX will be!! LOL If i get k-horns id prabably have to let a set of these go, NA, ill prabably wind up staying with these!! And the Academy, thank you again!! Only thing, they upgraded H/T, to 6.1 or? Is the carver THX old news now? Id still like to have that old news LOL!!! Im pretty much maxed out, as far as room here!! Im in a single wide (16 foot) wide moble modular home!! LOL If i see a set of k-horns in Denver by chance, and have the extra money, then yea, ill get them!! Ill just cut out the wall to flush mount the cornwalls, then seal them outside!! No, in all reality, i still have 2 channel hardware here, ill hook up a 2 channel, in the back room!!! This is a hobby, thats always fun!!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted August 27, 2001 Share Posted August 27, 2001 oh come now jim there's always room for another academy in that rear center thanks for the tip on the elmer's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 28, 2001 Author Share Posted August 28, 2001 Sure BOA, i filled a good sized dent on my cornwalls, then painted it to match, dries like concrete, simple and easy, you can even wipe away acsess with a damp rag!! Whats this rear center channel thing now!! ? LOL Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 jim, so that glue polishes pretty smooth? i do have some of that wood glue laying around here. rear center now for 6.1 channels. dts now has it as a discrete channel: dts es 6.1. the movie biz & theaters are gettin it on. probably more 6.1 material to come. see here & choose dts-es pdf file: http://www.dtsonline.com/consumer/technical.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 28, 2001 Author Share Posted August 28, 2001 Cool. as long as its a reciever, but still the 6.1 surround is expensive, thatll be a while yet to come!! And by the time i get that, itll already be outdated, but if i see the carver THX first i might go that way!! Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 28, 2001 Author Share Posted August 28, 2001 Oh yea, on the glue, yea, its real smooth, and you wont have to worry about it flaking away, or drying out, then falling off!! Give it a try!! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 jim, yea 6.1 is my limit as i wouldn't have anymore room for these big speakers for 8.1, etc. well could put another c-7 on the fireplace mantle for 7.1 but that would really be overkill for now. but there's always that possible bigger house/room. will it ever end? btw, the c7 sits perfectly right on my 9" depth mantle between the corns. academy would have been a lil too deep (10") anyway. thanks again for the help w/ the crack(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 28, 2001 Author Share Posted August 28, 2001 WoW 6.1, 7.1, 8.1, Reminds me of AOL!! Ill see after i get the academy this week, were i might be going, Right now i have just a basic old kenwood A/v reciever, wish i still had my onkyo!! That one worked 3 years no problems at all! Shame i had to sell it!! I dont plan on spending thousands again for H/T, i only watch so many movies, so if i see the carver THX at a decent price, ill get that, or just get the 6.1, thatll be good enough!! Regards Jim Your welcome on the glue!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cornell Posted August 28, 2001 Author Share Posted August 28, 2001 Boa I saw on another post, your thinking of getting a new reciever, if you do, sell me the old one LOL!!! Or have you done it already? Regards Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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