Guy Landau Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Dean, Here's your chance http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstube&1093032821 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Paul, grab them quickly before Dean snatches them. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale W Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Shipping to the USA olny ( that puts me out ) no exceptions !! But they certainly are a pair of " lookers " bet they sound decent as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 "bet they sound decent as well." That is an understatement of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted June 21, 2004 Author Share Posted June 21, 2004 Dale, Try to email him and ask. I've bought my Geminis from him and he's a nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 The Wright 2A3 amplifiers are also outstanding amps (IMO!)and would come factory-built. Moondogs can look awesome on the outside, since Welborne Labs goes the extra mile with the aesthetic aspect, but I have seen some examples of the amp that were very uncomplimentary in terms of the wiring. The Moondogs were sold mainly as kits, and so it might be prudent to inquire about the build quality before making the investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 How can somebody screw up a kit with only two dozen parts? I'll be happy to let Dean get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted June 21, 2004 Author Share Posted June 21, 2004 The Moondog is probably the better amp between the two. The fact that you came across an example or two that weren't properly wired, is not a justified reason to generalize on all of them. I think that the photos show some neat wiring there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Guy, you're reading more into my post than what's there. I have Moondogs myself, and I won't part with them -- evidently, other people are willing to do so. I'd sell my own amplifiers before I sold those. I never 'generalized' about anything. The Moondogs a very good SET amplifiers, and I know of cases where both the Wright and Moondog were compared side-by-side, and many some preferred the Wrights, others the Moondogs. Would you purchase an amplifier that more often than not was sold as a kit -- without wanting to find out at least something about the quality of the wiring job? I certainly would not. There may be people who are only familiar with the Moondog name, and not realize that there is a possibility that it was someone's respectable but possibly very first project. You're right. I have seen the insides of some Moondogs that looked very poor; and that is the single reason I am bringing up the very important issue of build-quality. Have you seen the inside of these amplifiers, and would you be willing to buy them for $1.5K without seeing or knowing anything about a potentially questionable construction job? I don't think there's anything wrong with making a prospective buyer aware of the fact that they may be purchasing someone's very first attempt at electronics work. This may not at all be the case with the amps in question, but I would think anyone contemplating that kind of investment would want to find out some of the history behind the component. I know I would. Edit: My fault! I did not see where Guy indicated that the wiring on this amp was shown in the Audiogon listing. My apologies, Guy! I am sorry! As mentioned below, they really do look to be very well done throughout. Those teflon sockets seem to have differing opinions, but if they loosen up with use, they can always be retensioned. Again, my mistake, they look to be really well-built. One of the transformers may be from MagneQuest, which is what Ron Welborne was using before he started using Electra-Print power and output transformers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 The seller has a picture of the Moondogs in his ad, and in my opinion look very well put together. The filter capacitor in the 6.3 volt rectifier is not the kind usually sold with the kit, but everything else looks to be in great shape. I can't see the soldering work, but the layout is well done; all AC wiring is twisted to minimize hum (I have seen a few Moondogs where none of the AC wiring was twisted -- twisting AC pairs is fairly common practice and is also included in the directions in the Moondog assembly manaul). These look to be very good Moondogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 What about that one cold solder joint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Well, I noticed that, but just wasn't sure one way or the other. Nothing a little touch up with a hot iron couldn't fix, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Landau Posted June 21, 2004 Author Share Posted June 21, 2004 ---------------- On 6/21/2004 6:11:49 PM paulparrot wrote: What about that one cold solder joint? ---------------- He won't charge you extra $ for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Here it is a brightened so that you can see the details better. The connection from the driver to the board, under the cathode wires, to the coupling cap, to another board to the cathode of the 2A3, is that the normal way these are wired? why? Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Rick: I wish I knew how to do magic tricks like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 "Rick: I wish I knew how to do magic tricks like that...." Erik, just get yourself a copy of "Photoshop for The Dummies". . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Erik, Download the image to your "My Pictures" file; open your photo program; open the photo; click on image(on MGI Photosuite that I use it maybe edit on others); click on brightness and adjust until you are happy; then resave the file. Not hard really, if I can do it I know that you can! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Neo: That's sounds like something that would be just right for me! Is that something that really exists? It would be helpful for me to know how to do for school related things, as well. My students taught me how to 'copy and paste' just this school year! Tell me that's not pathetic!? Actually, those kids help me with all kinds of computer-related stuff. My problem is that every year the new and latest version of Gradebook, lessonplanning.....whatever, comes out and I have to figure things out all over again. Rick:Erik, Download the image to your "My Pictures" file; open your photo program; open the photo; click on image(on MGI Photosuite that I use it maybe edit on others); click on brightness and adjust until you are happy; then resave the file. What does all of that mean!? What's 'MGI Photosuite'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/productCd-0764516620.html Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo33 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 "Neo: That's sounds like something that would be just right for me! Is that something that really exists? It would be helpful for me to know how to do for school related things, as well. My students taught me how to 'copy and paste' just this school year! Tell me that's not pathetic!? Actually, those kids help me with all kinds of computer-related stuff. My problem is that every year the new and latest version of Gradebook, lessonplanning.....whatever, comes out and I have to figure things out all over again." Erik, you're being TOO HUMBLE! I can learn a lots from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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