Colin Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Dont know where the thread went, but somebody posted a link to an interesting harmon/kardon white paper article. Thanks. This 29 page PDF paper reads easy enough, but even with broadband it is huge and comes up slowly. In short, here are some of the interesting things it says: E. Toole, Ph.D., Vice President Acoustical Engineering, Harman International Industries, Inc. http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/AudioScience.pdf all of the tests were conducted blind. Other physical and psychological factors known to be sources of bias were also well controlled . The results were very clear. When the data were compiled, it turned out that most people, most of the time, liked and disliked the same loudspeakers. All of these erratic listeners had hearing loss. Early reected sounds have been reected only once in transit and, in most domestic-size rooms, will arrive within approximately the first twenty to thirty milliseconds (ms) after the direct sound. Wide dispersion or multidirectional loudspeakers generate lots of early reflections, meaning that, for such speakers the acoustics of the room are major determinants in how they sound. All-round good on-axis behavior makes a loudspeaker very room friendly, with a high probability of sounding good in a wide variety of rooms. Price is certainly an unreliable indicator of sonic excellence. Our ears are very highly attuned to the detection and evaluation of resonances, and it is therefore no surprise that listeners zero in on them as unwanted editorializing when they appear in loudspeakers. many commonly-used and published measurements simply cannot reveal visual evidence of certain kinds of audible problems falling within a critical portion of the frequency range that of the human voice and below. An interesting fact now emerges: that the conventional method of specifying frequency response, ± x dB, is useless unless the tolerance is very, very small. High-Q phenomena could be ± 5 dB, while moderate-Q resonances could be ± 3 dB and low-Q and other broadband deviations could be ± 0.5 dB, and all of them would be equally audible! It is easy to understand how the popular belief that you cant measure what you can hear came to be. Bad measurements and useless specifications are responsible. Among the results are conclusions that the flatness and smoothness of high-resolution on-axis curves need to be given substantial weighting. Audio Science in the Service of Art 20 The winners are easy to pick; flat and smooth are beautiful. It is probably correct to say that the majority of listeners find stereo to be pleasantly embellished if the room reflections are energetic. The sound tends to be open and spacious, with a good sense of depth, but specific images might be rather vague in other words, rather like real concerts. However, some listeners prefer a very specific, almost pinpoint, sense of image position. These people are attracted to highly directional horn and large panel loudspeakers. In the investigation of many rooms over the years, I would estimate that something like 80% have serious bass coloration - too much, too little, boomy, uneven, etc. There are two steps in the solution. The first step is to decide how many listeners should have expectations of good bass. Seat-to-seat variations in bass quality can be huge. If there is only a single listener, then proceed immediately to EQUALIZATION. If there are multiple listeners deserving of good bass, then visit SOUND FIELD MANAGEMENT for explanations of how to employ multiple subwoofers to achieve more uniform bass at several seats in a room. It turns out that there are, in fact, two solutions : one for simple rectangular rooms, and one for rooms with more complicated shapes. With one subwoofer, and a lot of luck, it is possible to deliver good bass to a single listener. But what if you are not lucky? With one subwoofer, a device capable of measuring high-resolution (1/10-octave or better) frequency responses, and a parametric equalizer, it is possible to deliver good bass to a single listener no luck required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Thanks Colin, that was very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I'm curious as to where bose falls into all of this considering they don't think a flat frequency response means anything. I'm just thinking bose would make a great example of something totally deviating from the trends found in the discussion. I know Bose isn't great by any means, but they aren't that bad either (ignoring price). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLSamuel Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Colin - the link is natually broken. Any chance you could attach the PDF file? Thanks, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 It could be this one... http://www.harman.com/EN-US/OurCompany/Innovation/Documents/White%20Papers/AudioScience.pdf but he did this one too... http://www.harmanaudio.com/all_about_audio/audio_art_science.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 thanks Colin. interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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