masterpp Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I went to monstercable website and was thinking of purchasing the Z series for speaker wires. But I noticed that there are two wires in red wire and other 2 wires in black wire. (Z2 Reference Audiophile) That is 4 wires total. Why are there 4 wires? There are only 2 wires input from receiver to speakers. Should I get Z series or New Monster Cable Navajo White or any recommendation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 forget about monster. You can buy so many better things for the same price. If you are looking for handmade stuff bluejeanscable.com is very popular around here. Canare.com (canare cable is what I use it can be bought on e-bay) and also there are plenty of other companys that offer great wiring I would go for audioquest or vampire wire or stright wire. Any of those 3 can be found at local retailers and are a helluva a lot better than monster. Also check out the thread in general questions about monster as a company and learn to dislike them as much as a lot of us around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleve Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 My eyes were opened about Monster Cable just recently. Even if their product was good, I just can't support those kind of business practices with my dollars. Check out Tributaries Cables - http://www.tributariescable.com/ One of the company's founders was Palma Gow, wife of the late Gordon Gow of McIntosh fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnysal Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 to answer your question, which no one else did, the two pairs are for bi-wiring, this splits the signals between bass and treble in a two way system. this can be done passively or actively, you can do a search under "bi-wire" or "bi-amp" for more details. regards, tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleve Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 PS - you need two amps (one for the woofers, one for the midrange/tweeters) for bi-wiring to make any sense, and also some kind of active amplifier filtration to weed out the unneeded parts of the audio bandwidth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IB Slammin Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 ---------------- On 12/26/2004 4:16:51 AM masterpp wrote: I went to monstercable website and was thinking of purchasing the Z series for speaker wires. But I noticed that there are two wires in red wire and other 2 wires in black wire. (Z2 Reference Audiophile) That is 4 wires total. Why are there 4 wires? There are only 2 wires input from receiver to speakers. Should I get Z series or New Monster Cable Navajo White or any recommendation? ---------------- I re-wired with the 12gage Navajo White....Only because I found a hot deal on ebay for about the same price as HD or Lowes. Easy to work with, looks nice, no improvement in sound. IMHO "wore is wore". Well, not Bob Wore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Cleve, hate to differ, but bi-WIRING in a Klipsch sense is just using specialty conductors in your wiring to 'better conduct low and high frequencies'. Or so the theory goes. You are speaking of bi-AMPLIFICATION, a common PA practice, which involves splitting the pre-amp signal before the amp through use of an active electronic crossover, then to separate amps, cables, bypassing the speakers passive crossover, directly to the drivers. Entirely different animals. There is a very lengthy thread regarding BI-wiring on this FOrum. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleve Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 ---------------- On 12/26/2004 11:59:26 AM colterphoto1 wrote: Cleve, hate to differ, but bi-WIRING in a Klipsch sense is just using specialty conductors in your wiring to 'better conduct low and high frequencies'. Michael ---------------- Understood, Michael. I've read that in other threads. But that's always left me scratching my head. I could see using separate amps to supply the juice for the different drivers in a speaker. But the aforementioned reads more like a "Monster Cable" method of selling even more overpriced wires. I can already hear the sales clerks at Rat Shack promoting it! Think of it this way - the amplifier internally typically only has ONE wire each going to the speaker out terminals. How is splitting it and recombining it after it leaves the amp gonna make any measurable difference in signal strength or fidelity? If it does make a difference, then probably the only thing that was actually needed was an upgrade in the gauge of the speaker wire employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 Cleve, That's the point EXACTLY! However it is still a split decision. After all the trials, some listeners still believe that this dual conductor method yields better sound. Check out the rather lengthy post in HT forum. Amazing. I for one, am a fervent believer in a good grade of 14 or 16ga zip cord with tinned ends or proper terminators of whatever type necessary. Think the rest is snake oil. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Mobley Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 yeah, snake oil. but really expensive snake oil, so it must be good, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterpp Posted December 26, 2004 Author Share Posted December 26, 2004 okie i think i found the topic http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=9698&forumID=66 (i'm not sure if this is the right one) Monster Z series is too expensive for me. I'll use the regular New Monster cable. So I should make biwire instead of one pair wire, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtaylor Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 I don't believe anyone said to biwire.If it were me I'd just buy and install a decent grade of speaker wire and forget it. You will not be able to tell any differance in biwireing your speakers.IMHO Happy listening! Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhead Posted December 26, 2004 Share Posted December 26, 2004 ---------------- On 12/26/2004 3:19:43 PM rtaylor wrote: I don't believe anyone said to biwire.If it were me I'd just buy and install a decent grade of speaker wire and forget it. You will not be able to tell any differance in biwireing your speakers.IMHO Happy listening! Randy ---------------- rtaylor is wrong; you can tell a difference. When I bi-wired my speakers, I could tell a difference when I bought my cables, even before I hooked them up: bi-wiring costs twice as much. That's a big difference. Otherwise, I couldn't hear anything, and my system is pretty high resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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