Joe Shmoe Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 For someone who isn't into SACD or DVD-A would purchasing the Denon 1910 be a good choice? I really liked the 2900 or 2910 myself but my cousin isn't quite the audiophile I am so I would think it would be just a waste of money to get "an all in one" player like those mentioned right? The 2900 can be purchased now for $600.00, but the 1910 has a MSRP of $269.00. I pasted the specs below. The difference I see right away would be the choice of either the Silicon or Faroudja decoding engine. Progressive Scan/Scaling DVD Player Powered by the new DCDi by Faroudja FLI-2301 Decoding Engine Dual, discrete 54 MHz, 10 bit Video D/A Conversion system (1) each for Progressive and Interlaced outputs) (1) DVI-D (HDCP) Output with selectable 480p/720p/1080i output (1) each - Component Video, Composite and "S" outputs Variable Black Level (Setup): 0 and 7.5 IRE Passes below-black (PLUGE) on progressive and interlace outputs 2X DVD read speed; 4X CD/CD-R/CD-RW read speed; with 2MB drive buffer memory MP3 and Windows Media Audio (WMA 9) Playback Plays Audio/Video CDs; DVD-R/RW; DVD+R/RW(conditional); Audio CD-R; Audio CD-RW; Decoders for MP3 (128kbps or greater recommended) and WMA-9 (64 ~ 160kbps) CD-R/RW & DVD +/-R/RW discs JPEG photo file viewer, Kodak Picture and Fujicolor CD compatible Anamorphic Scaling for 4:3/16:9 Sets Zoom Control Burr-Brown PCM-1756, 24 bit, 192 kHz Audio DACs Serial Remote In/Out ports Dimensions: 17.1"w x 3.2"h x 9.7"d SRP $269 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Some folks at the AVS forum report lots of macroblocking artifacts with the 1910. For $300 you can buy the Sony 975 upscaler which, IMO&E, is marvelous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shmoe Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 "Whew"... I guess your'e right! Looks like the 1910 has alot of problems. The 2900 however seems to be pretty solid, bummer that it's almost $300 more. I might look at the Sony though, thanks for your input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JewishAMerPrince Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 There is a new kid on the block that looks promising at $199.00, it's called the Oppo 971 available from extremephoto.com. Mine should arrive Wednesday. The initial reports on this one are good! JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Just a couple of points: 1. The fine folks at AVS Forum will find fault with ANY product, so don't go solely on their advice, or you'll never buy anything. 2. Audiophile or not, who wouldn't love Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon in Multi-Channel Surround? It's a waste of money NOT to buy an all in one player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 I own the Denon 2900 and I can honesly tell you it's worth the price (in my opinion). In terms of performance and ease of use - it's fantastic. I previously owned a Sony DVD player and after hooking up my new Denon 2900 to my system, I heard music and vocals sound coming from movies I've previously wached that I had never heard before. It all depends on your wallet, but if it's possible you won't be diappointed with the 2900. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Todd---Since I stopped smoking grass (about 20 years ago) I don't want to hear Pink Floyd in any fashion---mono, stereo or multi-channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Shmoe Posted January 2, 2005 Author Share Posted January 2, 2005 Ha....lol, I myself would definitely go with the 2900, but my cousin.... I just don't see it, he's more movies. Thanks for the input on the AVS forum Todd, I kind of got that opinion after spending some time there this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myriadcorp Posted January 2, 2005 Share Posted January 2, 2005 Check videohelp.com under dvd players. Gives reviews and tells you all formats they play. If you want dvd mp3 disc, divx, vcd or other formats you can burn yourself, you can find it there. I have a $68 walmart Philipps 642 player that does everything. It plays every format I want. Unlike most of these high dollar players, this $68 player does damn near everything you will burn. I can put 4gigs of MP3's on a DVD RW disc. I use one disc to put all my new music on. So far I only used about 1.5 gigs of it. When I get new music I just rewrite the disc with the new stuff. Just pop it in your player and you have hrs upon hrs of music on one disc. If your not into SACD check out some other players. Dont spend your money on a brand name if its not going to do what you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 ---------------- On 1/2/2005 10:53:09 AM syd wrote: I own the Denon 2900 and I can honesly tell you it's worth the price (in my opinion). In terms of performance and ease of use - it's fantastic. I previously owned a Sony DVD player and after hooking up my new Denon 2900 to my system, I heard music and vocals sound coming from movies I've previously wached that I had never heard before. It all depends on your wallet, but if it's possible you won't be diappointed with the 2900. ---------------- Sorry to be Skeptical but I find it hard to believe there is much difference using the same digital connection on a $600 player vs. a $100 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 ---------------- On 1/3/2005 9:04:10 AM gcoker wrote: Sorry to be Skeptical but I find it hard to believe there is much difference using the same digital connection on a $600 player vs. a $100 player. ---------------- Unless you've actually tried it, you're not in much of a position to make that comparison, are you? My 3 year old computer, and my new one both have the "same digital connections" but the new on is better/faster. How can that be possible? Maybe the "connection" isn't the only thing that effects performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 ---------------- Unless you've actually tried it, you're not in much of a position to make that comparison, are you? My 3 year old computer, and my new one both have the "same digital connections" but the new on is better/faster. How can that be possible? Maybe the "connection" isn't the only thing that effects performance. ---------------- Computer? Yes your right I guess the less expensive DVD players leave off ones and zeros. Just like the high end Audio cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 gcoker, There's a lot to it, mostly surrounding the quality of the decoder/deinterlacer chipset the manufacturer chooses for their player and then how well they implement the software for the chipset. Some chipsets are better than others, and some people write better software than other people do. Generally the more expexsive players get you better chipsets and better software (along with things like better build quality and better quality control), but of course there are exceptions. There are some more expensive players that don't get you anything but a name, there are some less expensive players that do it better than machines costing three and four times their price, and there are some really expensive players that do it really really well. You should check out the DVD player comparisons at hometheaterhifi.com. They have done some pretty comprehensive testing on a large number of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Olorin, while I tend to agree to some extent on the video side I don't on the audio side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olorin Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I see, you got sidetracked by Syd's comment about his move to the 2900. I missed that and was focused more on the discussion of video quality. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcoker Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Yes Olorin, I was only commenting at the audio aspect of the high end players (minus SACD and DVD-Audio). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddvj Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 So, by gcoker's rationale, if you have two DVD players with DVI output, the picture will look exactly the same. After all DVI is a Digital connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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