Sergio17 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I have the 4.2 system, which is just two 2.1s linked together. Would the Monster Kit 4.1 work on this setup? Also, how much of a difference would it make, is it recommended? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftsman Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 The Monster 4.1 kit consist of 4 speaker cables - two for the front and two for the back. So, as long as you currently have 4 speaker cables for your 4.2, then the 4.1 kit should fit. However, I do recommend that you talk with Klipsch before you order - just in case... As for what difference it will make, my own personal view is anything thicker than the dental floss that is used for speaker cable will be an improvement. Now, if that improvement is worth your hard earned money, that's a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I26 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I did the mod where I bought 3.5 mini plug-ins and bought some 16-Gauge wire and redid my 4.2 setup. The wire was like $20-$25 for 100' feet of digital-100% oxygen free copper from RCA. I found it to be the cheapest at a home depot. The plugs i picked up at radio shack for like $2-3 a piece. I can honestly say the sound improved considerably. Heck even my wife noticed it. For the ends that plug into the speaker terminals on the sub i bought some of those copper pins u put on the wire ends. Looks nice and probably better sound through them. Those were like $5-6. I mounted them ear level on the walls using the homemade speaker mounts. I just bought some flat steel 1" wide about 3/16" thick for about $3 for a 3' length and bent them to the angle i wanted speakers at. Drilled the end out used a bolt with dual nuts and a washer to put on the speakers and tighten'em a tad to keep them angled correctly. The wires i ran though the wall and and out behind and under the mounts and up into the speaker. It looks really classy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftsman Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Sounds like a nice setup there. And of course, if the wife noticed the difference in sound, you know you did something right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio17 Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 ---------------- On 2/28/2005 5:34:40 PM I26 wrote: I did the mod where I bought 3.5 mini plug-ins and bought some 16-Gauge wire and redid my 4.2 setup. The wire was like $20-$25 for 100' feet of digital-100% oxygen free copper from RCA. I found it to be the cheapest at a home depot. The plugs i picked up at radio shack for like $2-3 a piece. I can honestly say the sound improved considerably. Heck even my wife noticed it. For the ends that plug into the speaker terminals on the sub i bought some of those copper pins u put on the wire ends. Looks nice and probably better sound through them. Those were like $5-6. I mounted them ear level on the walls using the homemade speaker mounts. I just bought some flat steel 1" wide about 3/16" thick for about $3 for a 3' length and bent them to the angle i wanted speakers at. Drilled the end out used a bolt with dual nuts and a washer to put on the speakers and tighten'em a tad to keep them angled correctly. The wires i ran though the wall and and out behind and under the mounts and up into the speaker. It looks really classy. ---------------- That sounds really cool, but I'm pretty sure I'm too much of a n00b to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio17 Posted March 7, 2005 Author Share Posted March 7, 2005 Actually, the more I think about it, the more it seems I can pull it off. Where can I get the copper pins? Anyone have any general advice in regards to soldering wire to mini-plugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I26 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Copper Pins? You mean for plugging into the sub? I got some monster cable ones at home depot but u can get similar at radio shack. http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=278-310 I also got the 3.5 plugs at radio shack and a soldering iron. It was a pain in the but to do. I suck at doing it. I wasted 3 plugs but they r cheap. Also don't go huge on your wire as the sleeve will not fit onto the back of the plug since the cable will be to fat. I used 16 gauge and it was probably the limit. Good Luck. If you want pics let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaveli Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Sorry to give you the bad news but about 98% of the difference you hear is all placebo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I26 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 "placebo"? If you mean placement, i tend to disagree. The speakers were already in the same location except they were sitting on a shelf not hanging off the wall. Trust me or don't trust me, but the sound improved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergio17 Posted March 8, 2005 Author Share Posted March 8, 2005 When he says placebo, I think he's referring to it just being in your mind. Some pics would be great, if it wouldn't be too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackson_ngo Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 ---------------- On 3/8/2005 2:56:08 AM Makaveli wrote: Sorry to give you the bad news but about 98% of the difference you hear is all placebo... ---------------- I've upgraded my cables too, but i will say it's some 20% improvement. The clarity from the satellites are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Sorry to give you the bad news but about 98% of the difference you hear is all placebo... It's always hard to tell when making audio adjustments like this. I once tweaked something in my home theater setup (can't remember what now), sat back, and was thrilled to hear the improvement in sound. It was very noticable and I was very happy at the improvement at next to no cost. I went back to look at my setup and discovered that I hadn't actually made the tweak I thought I was making. In other words - I was listening to the EXACT same setup. The only change was in my mind. After that I tend to look for some sort of objective way to measure my tweaks As for heavier gauge speaker wire, however, it is pretty much accepted in the audio world that if you're running speaker wire at length - and the wire for the rear sats especially is pretty long - you're better off with heavier gauge wire for less interferance. (I definitely wouldn't pay for a high end brand like Monster though - just get something cheap from Radioshack or Home Depot.) I definitely want to swap in some heavier gauge wire - can anyone give me some step-by-step advice on how to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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