Parrot Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 I found a review of the speakers Mark Knopfler uses in his surround studio. They were $33,899 a pair (includes custom amplifiers) back in 1999. http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_highend_studio_monitor/ You have to custom order them, so I don't know what the current price is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Audio Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 ---------------- It has been a while since I listened to the album - I guess its time has past - but I did love it for quite a while. ---------------- Updated format, but tired and almost forgotten music. You can find this title in the used CD bins at Anywhere USA, not far from Billy Ocean's Greatest Hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Some people have some harsh opinions of Dire Straits. To each thier own. I personally like Dire Straits very much, Making Movies is my favorite album. Knopfler's single stuff is also good. I was lucky enough to see him live for the Sailing to Philadephia album. I will be sure to pick up the new SACD album. Thanks you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 ---------------- On 6/2/2005 9:00:25 PM jacksonbart wrote: Some people have some harsh opinions of Dire Straits. To each thier own. I personally like Dire Straits very much, Making Movies is my favorite album. Knopfler's single stuff is also good. I was lucky enough to see him live for the Sailing to Philadephia album. I will be sure to pick up the new SACD album. Thanks you for the info. ---------------- I think "Making Movies" is their best album too, or do you mean best by anybody? There was a period of months, when it first came out, that I listened to nothing else in my car. And it still sounds as fresh today as it did then, which is truly remarkable. It'd be great if they multichanneled "Making Movies" and "Love Over Gold." It's good to see that Knopfler is so interested in multichannel mixes. More often than not, artists just tell the mixing engineer to knock himself out; they have more important things to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 Another vote for Making Movies. I love that album and still listen to it a lot. Love Over Gold is very cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott0527 Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 ---------------- On 6/2/2005 8:31:12 PM True Audio wrote: ---------------- It has been a while since I listened to the album - I guess its time has past - but I did love it for quite a while. ---------------- Updated format, but tired and almost forgotten music. You can find this title in the used CD bins at Anywhere USA, not far from Billy Ocean's Greatest Hits. ---------------- Billy rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 ---------------- On 6/2/2005 9:49:42 PM Parrot wrote: ---------------- On 6/2/2005 9:00:25 PM jacksonbart wrote: Some people have some harsh opinions of Dire Straits. To each thier own. I personally like Dire Straits very much, Making Movies is my favorite album. Knopfler's single stuff is also good. I was lucky enough to see him live for the Sailing to Philadephia album. I will be sure to pick up the new SACD album. Thanks you for the info. ---------------- I think "Making Movies" is their best album too, or do you mean best by anybody? There was a period of months, when it first came out, that I listened to nothing else in my car. And it still sounds as fresh today as it did then, which is truly remarkable. It'd be great if they multichanneled "Making Movies" and "Love Over Gold." It's good to see that Knopfler is so interested in multichannel mixes. More often than not, artists just tell the mixing engineer to knock himself out; they have more important things to do. ---------------- Its my favorite Dire Straits Album, not my favorite all time, but its up there for me. Favorite song is Skate Away followed by Solid Rock. Les Boys is the weakest, but pretty good. I have all their albums or I should say CDs. Some of my other favorite songs in no particular order: Portobello Belle, In the Gallery, Six Blade Knife, It Never Rains, Wild West Ends (classic) and one of my favorite of thier live tracks is from Alchemys (which at least on CD is not a very good sounding) Once upon a time in the West. Let me add his single CDs all sound very good, you can tell time and effort were made, yet the ones I have are stereo. Just ordered the SACD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 2, 2005 Author Share Posted June 2, 2005 Some other excellent Knopfler stuff can be found on Bob Dylan's "Infidels" album from 1983, which he plays on and co-produced, and Joan Armatrading's 1988 release, "The Shouting Stage," where he plays on two songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted June 2, 2005 Share Posted June 2, 2005 I notice they didn't use lamp cord for speaker wire in that studio monitor shootout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 3, 2005 Author Share Posted June 3, 2005 True enough. The Dunlavy speakers, which were $16,000 a pair, used $9 a foot speaker wire. Didn't bankrupt anyone, though, because they only used 3 feet of wire from each amp to each speaker! The "Knopfler" model speakers use their own company-supplied wire, so there's no way for us to know what kind they supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Glad Jackson mentioned Sailing to Philadelphia. I picked that album up a couple of years ago (actually maybe last year - or 3 years ago - who remembers these details?) and really liked it. Funny thing was that I owned it, and listened to it, for about 6 months before I noticed it was HDCD. Whilst my player plays it I think it is playing as a normal CD and not exploring the benefits of HDCD. Having said that the quality is excellent. A much more grown up and laid back sound - with some really good guitar work throughout - and I liked the lyrics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Rick, I gotta disagree (are you older than me?). Here's some ramblings of mine on the subject of creativity, in particular music, but paralleling the visual arts, too. The "Dan" has always been one of my favorite so-called rock/jazz/fusion groups, but they do not define an "era" in any sense. Rather, I think that they define a "style". I don't think that any pop group defines a musical "era"; pop music/culture is too small of a piece of the musical pie. After all, do we care what "everyone" was listening to in the pop-sense in the 1920's? Does any single group or performer "define" that "era" (we really mean DECADE, do we not?). About creative longevity: There is such a thing as "growth" in the case of musicians and artists. This is a requirement of being a "serious" artist. It also helps if you're crazy, but not for commercial purposes; making money from ACTING crazy is not respected, but BEING insane is. Watch for the antics of the famous - cashing in on bad behaviour is a clue. Repeditive to the point of boredom: Always watch out for those who constantly turn out the same thing over and over again. Staleness basically equals commercial sales. Once the instrument is "mastered" or is relegated to being a tool of expression, the matter becomes what needs to be "expressed". Eventually, there is only so much that the instrument can do, lyrics can say, or mixing effects can achieve. Suffering and starvation have historically been helpful in this regard, but it is not as likely to occur in more modern times so it tends to be self-induced or self-destructive behavior that results in the artists suffering nowadays. Drugs are just another commercially exploitable tool in the box of today's artists. The thing to look for is SUCCESSIVE and yet DIFFERENT work coming out year after year. Some will be better than others, but the overall view of the COLLECTION is the important thing. It denotes creative GROWTH. Take Jeff Beck, for instance. Heads down, non-stop, non-commercial (or is it?) creativity and exploration. Musical groups are more difficult in that there is more than one creative soul involved, and usually too many different directions to go in, which is why they don't tend to last in the long run. Once a certain level of sophistication is achieved, it becomes a matter of "technical proficiency" rather than "saying something new", or even something that "needed to be said". Most of the time, it's musical masterbation made up from the practiced moves and techniques with no real statement to make. Some artists move back towards the unsophisticated to remain free of this tendancy. So also look for that in a large body of work. Then you have the totally lame dudes rehashing the old days. This may PO some of you but Clapton, Santana, etc. sound the same today as they did in the early 70's. Not an indicator of creative growth. Probably a better indicator of commercialism and financial success. Or drug use, who knows. The one thing I think that we are all looking for is the FIRE in the BELLY. Those whose gift is easily seen and recognised by everyone around them. Looking or hearing something that "needed to be said" by those who are MEANT by SOMETHING other than their own will to say it. That's when it gets good. It's rare in POP music, but it happens occassionally. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted June 7, 2005 Author Share Posted June 7, 2005 Excellent analysis, D-Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dzapper Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Nice analysis DM. BTW I've got you by about ten years. Sometimes, drug induced growth is not a forward step. Witness the "growth" of the Jefferson Airplane/Starship. As they "grew", they lost their edge. Although more complex, the Starship albums did not reach out and grab the listener like the Airplane efforts. Am I the only one who likes Fleetwood Mac better before the Chicks? Kilnhouse, Baretrees. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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