mcp Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 Spent about an hour cleaning it up. Here's a picture of the beast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Too bad that your pic didn't post, I'd like to see it. Those old Duals were great examples of German over-engineering and chunky styling (I think it had a ten or twelve pound platter). To set your tracking force as I recall, you need to adjust the counterweight first with the tracking force set to zero and the cartridge in place. Set the cue to the tonearm-down position, then adjust the counterweight by rotating it either direction (I think it clicks as you do this) so that the tonearm just floats (not resting on the lower stop or up against the upper limit). That should be zero force. If you can't get the tonearm to float that way you may need to slide the counterweight in or out a bit (I think there was a set scew near the back of the tonearm to loosen for that) and then fine adjust again by rotating the counter weight. After it is zeroed (just floating), adjust the tracking force (I think there was dial near the tonearm gimbal) to around 1 or 1.5 grams. That should be a good place to start, depending on how solid your set up is you may need to increase the mass. Off the top of my head, I don't recall the the anti-skating adjustment procedure but I'll let you know if anything comes to me. Good luck and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcp Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Sputnik: Thanks for the info. The picture posted fine on my computer...not sure why you can't see it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcp Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Been listening to records all morning and loving it. Several things are apparent to me already. The sound seems more detached from the speakers with vinyl. Soundstage depth is fantastic. Bass actually sounds like bass! Again, in comparison to CD remaster versions, most of my 70's vinyl has far more slam and smoother highs. I find myself listening to music at higher volumes with no fatigue. This has been an amazing start to the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 It's a shame you're experiencing problems with your Dual; I've heard they're pretty decent 'tables. Don't know if it would be worth repairing or not (maybe if you like that model so much you can find a decent one like it on eBay or AudiogoN). EDIT: I missed your post about gluing down the strobe pattern. Glad it solved your problem (would love to see a pic of it)! Or like others have already stated, buy a new or used Music Hall, Pro-Ject, or Rega within your $500 budget. Since you already have a classic harman/kardon receiver with a decent phono stage, I've heard that harman/kardon also made great inexpensive turntables in their day (back in the early to mid '80s). One model I've heard great things about is the top-flight belt drive harman/kardon T60 (wouldn't mind owning one myself...if it wasn't for my dad's mint '79 Technics SL-1700MK2 I'm using now, I'd look for a T60). Bet this 'table would sound excellent through your H/K730, mated with a top-flight Shure, audio-technica, or Grado MM cartridge (or even a MC if you're willing to spend the money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Disregard my last post...a new cartridge is definately a must at this stage of the game (like the ones I already posted above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcp Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 I'll try this again...don't know why the pic didn't post earlier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcp Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 One more view... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I'm buying college rock and punk from pre 1985. I'm looking for... ... lot's of indies. Anyone looking to buy any (or all) of these records? 13th Floor Elevators - Bull of the Woods 13th Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere 13th Floor Elevators - Live 13th Floor Elevators - The Psychodelic Sounds of... Best of the Kingston Trio - Volume III Bonzo Dog Band - Tadpoles Brewer and Shipley - Weeds Bubble Puppy - A Gathering of Promises Ca Plane Pour Moi - Plastic Bertrand Chiswick Chartbusters Volume 12 - Longshots, Dead Certs, and Favorites Chiswick Chartbusters Volume I - Fool's Gold Don Sanders - Extended Play Geet Voor - New Wave Glory - A Meat Music Sampler Guillotine - 10 inch Record Hope and Anchor Front Row Festival double album Live at Double Album Lost and Found - Everybody's Here Martha and the Muffins - Metro Music Metal Urban - (untitled) Pebbles Volume 1 - Punk Classics of the 60's Pierre Ubu - Dub Housing Pierre Ubu - The Modern Dance Radio Birdmen - Radios Appear Ramases - Glass Top Coffin Riot On Sunset Strip - Soundtrack Shakin Street - Vampire Rock Sham 69 - Tell Us the Truth Stinky Toys - (untitled) Streets - British Indy Label Highlights Suicide - (untitled) The Boys - (untitled) The Incredible String Band - The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion The Leaves - All The Good That's Happening The Pentange - Reflection The Pentange - Untiled (first album) The Pentangle - Basket of Light The Pentangle - Cruel Sister The Pentangle - Soloman's Seal The Pentangle - Sweet Child - Double lbum The Quick - Mondo Deco The Red Crayola with the Familiar Ugly The Saints - Eternally Yours The Saints - I'm Stranded The Seeds - Falling Off the Edge The Seeds - Future The Seeds - Raw and Alive - Merlin's Music Box The Seeds - The Seeds The Suicide Comandos - Make A Record The Velvet Underground - "1969" - double album The Velvet Underground - Live at Max's Kansas City The Velvet Underground - Loaded The Velvet Underground - Squeeze The Velvet Underground - Untitled The Velvet Underground - White Light / White Heat Thobbing Gristle - (untitled ) Thunder Train - Teenage Suicide Tooth and Nail - (untitled) Triumvirat - Old Loves Die Hard Volumatrix - Volume I Wire - Chairs Missing Wire -Untitled Xray Specs - Germfree Adolescents XTC 3D EP Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1stcav Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 That's one solid 'table! Looks like it weighs a ton. It does remind me of my mom's early '70s Elac Miracord 40A from West Germany, custom made for RadioShack's Realistic lineup...it had a springy suspension that floated within its plastic wood-grain cabinet, and four buttons: "Stop," "12", "10" and "7" inch which selected automatic operation depending on record size. Speeds included 16, 33, 45 and 78 RPM, and the Realistic cartridge that came with it took a Shure stylus. It looked very much like this one, and similar to your Dual IMO. My mom's got it packed away...wonder if it still operates?[:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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