jdm56 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 ...compared to a Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading? I've been looking at Dell XPS400's with the D, versus Dell E510's with the 4. All my comparisons with similar featured PC's seem to show the main difference in price must just be in the processor. Is it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc3sean Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 Yes, it is worth it, plus you get a much better chipset with the LGA775 proc. Hyperthreading dosent do much i wouldnt say its a advantage. It dosent aid in gaming, but it does make use of its self when you are multitasking many open windows, firefox, foobar, spreadsheet, word, aim, and someother programs. Plus you can take advantage of a FSB speed of 1055, on some models, and if your mobo supports that speed. And 64 bit. I would say any HT proc is no comparison for a 3.0+ dual core proc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc3sean Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 You should just BYOC(build your own computer) if you are going to buy expensive components like a dual core proc. Dells=the suck. They screw you with the total cost. I could built you the same system for a fraction of the cost that dell charges you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted April 29, 2006 Author Share Posted April 29, 2006 Thanks for the advice, but I'm not up to rolling my own! We went ahead and ordered a new E510 with the Pentium D dual core. It should be a major improvement over our 6-yr-old Compaq with it's Celeron processor running at 466MHz! Plus, going from a 15" crt to a 19" LCD should be nice, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 the cheaper dells are good value n(less than 1000 dollars. Its just the gamer computers they tend to fleece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I got a 1000Hz PIII for $50 just so I could troll the forum (back up to a PII and Maxtor drive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted May 2, 2006 Author Share Posted May 2, 2006 I got a 1000Hz PIII for $50 just so I could troll the forum (back up to a PII and Maxtor drive) I hear ya! --don't need a super computer to surf the 'net! I think we'll hang on to the old Compaq for a while. It still works well enough for word processing, e-mail and the web (iow, about 90% of what we actually do!). When we get the new one, we probably won't be able to use it much because my 13 yr old will be glued to it -- he's already scoping out new computer games that our old pc couldn't run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 I will be honest, Any child who says they need the latest and greatest computer will have one thing in mind. Games! Do not buy them the latest and greatest as they will waste their lives on videogames. Those 500-1000 dollar computers will be adequate for word processing and web browsing. alittle more for a laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 Agreed. This kid's already got a Game Cube, an X-Box, a PSP and an original PlayStation, so it ain't like he's deprived. Still, I don't care if he has a few PC games. And this Dell 510 with the Pentium D running at 2.8gHz should still be OK. Not the cutting edge, but still a big improvement over what we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho Nacho Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Agreed. This kid's already got a Game Cube, an X-Box, a PSP and an original PlayStation, so it ain't like he's deprived. Still, I don't care if he has a few PC games. And this Dell 510 with the Pentium D running at 2.8gHz should still be OK. Not the cutting edge, but still a big improvement over what we had. Spare the rod spoil the child man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Share Posted May 9, 2006 Ha...well, he may be a little spoiled, but he's still a pretty good kid. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 ...compared to a Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Threading? I've been looking at Dell XPS400's with the D, versus Dell E510's with the 4. All my comparisons with similar featured PC's seem to show the main difference in price must just be in the processor. Is it worth it? A P4 with Hyperthreading is more like Hype Threading.Does exactly next to nothing in most apps.It emulates dual CPU's and it does not work too well. A dual core is TWO actual CPU's on one die.And any app taking advantage of the two cores will work like you had two single core CPU's. Yes a dual core is worth it and a near must buy for any new PC. Unless all you will be doing is some office apps and browse the net and surf the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 dual core though still is meant for multiple applications or multifunctioning applications like autocad, 3dstudio max, any rendering programs. The best single core still beats dual core chips in pure speed like videogames. This is due to the single core still has a faster clock speed than the dual cores which puts two lesser processors together. Also the benefit to the dual core though is heat productions, its less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meuge Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Most new games support dual-core chips natively, and many benefit simply from the windows processes being offloaded to another CPU. At this point dual-core chips rule performance-wise in games. But Intel's Pentium 4 DC is a pretty sucky way of doing dual-core, with few instructions for load-balancing. AMD's X2 CPUs are far more efficient, and are predictably MUCH faster. Intel's Core 2 Duo technology (not to be confused with Core Duo) will be a much better implementation, and we're all looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 No doubt in the current market the Athlon64 X2 beats the cores out of Intel's Dual Core P4,even the so called Extreme Edition is extremly at a disadvantage,more expensive and gets ground to the PCB in the price/performance departament. Intel's Conroe is supposed to change all that.Lets hope,this will re-ignite some good old times battle again.As now the A64 dominates. Currently I have three PC's and all three use AMD CPU's.All Athlon64 chips from single core FX to dual core X2's. Today the choice is clear Plus the Athlon64 heats alot less,the P4's generate heat like stove elements! The tables are reversed on Intel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Can i make a suggestion regarding PC's that will probably be unpopular? Check out IBM. There are reasons. 1. Price. Generally on par or slightly cheaper than Dell 2. Warranty. Last I checked, the standard warranty is twice as long as Dell's. 3. Quality. Come on, they're IBM!!!! 4. Like components. (Meaning. All models use the same source for a particular component. ex. all motherboards for a particular model will have the same manufacturer.) This becomes important when hardware fails. otoh, companies like Dell use the lowest cost supplier at the time the need more parts. The same model can have differet suppliers for components in the same model line. (this is a big one!) 5. Reputation. Again, they're IBM!! 6. Reliability. These are manufactured with corporate consumers in mind. Corners aren't cut, these are tried and trued buisness grade machine. Corporate clients dont put up with defects. 7. THE keyboard! IT IS CLASSIC!! Comfortable, well laid out, I belive its called "ergonomic"?? I sell PC's for a living. I sit here with an IBM t42 on my lap. Great stuff. IBM is the choice of corporate America for a reason. C this IBM starts at $379 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 while typing on my IBM Thinkpad T40 I shudder to think that IBM sold the thinkpad to a chinese corporation and now called lenova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Lenovo. Interesting news on the buy/sell. It is the way our new global economy works. I would be surprised if the build or quality changes significanlty. It appears that happened back in 2004? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay481985 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 actually their build quality is the same as ibm still has some say in the quality of the item. Also they made the x81 that is purely lenovo. It was released rigt after the company was sold and is still a hit being the best laptop/tablet out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarence Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 ordered my new laptop friday, check it out.... View summary of ThinkPad T60 ThinkPad T60 Model 1953EAU Configured price $2,027.00 * Lease price$64.00 per month for 36 months Lenovo recommends Windows® XP Professional Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:01:18 PM EDT Need help with this page? ThinkPad T60 1953EAU DescriptionPart noUnit price*Unit lease price**QuantityPrice*Lease price** ThinkPad T60 1953EAU Customize 1953EAU $1,749.00 $54.921 $1,749.00 $54.92 Processor: Intel Core Duo processor T2400 (1.83GHz, 2MB L2, 667MHz FSB) (Standard) 1 Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional 40Y8496 1 Display type: 15.0 inch XGA (1024x768) TFT (Standard) 1 Memory: 1GBMB PC2-5300 CL5 NP DDR2 SDRAM SODIMM 40Y7738 1 Graphics: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (Standard) 1 Hard drive: 80 GB 5400 rpm SATA Hard Drive 41N3021 1 Optical device: ThinkPad 24X/24X/24X/8X Max Combo Ultrabay Slim Drive 41N5551 1 Integrated data/fax modem: 56K V.92 Designed Modem (Standard) 1 Integrated Ethernet: Integrated Gigabit Ethernet (Standard) 1 Integrated WiFi wireless LAN: Wi-Fi wireless upgradable and Bluetooth (Standard) 1 Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Mini-PCI Express Adapter 41A4068 1 Battery: ThinkPad 6 Cell Li-Ion Battery 40Y6800 1 USB ports: 3 USB 2.0 (back) (Standard) 1 Security: Embedded Security Subsystem 2.0 and Integrated fingerprint reader (Standard) 1 Accessories and options: Special offers: Discounted MS Office Small Business Edition W72003S $129.00 $4.051 $129.00 $4.05 Expansion and cable management: Discounted with PC Purchase ThinkPad Advanced Mini Dock with Power Cord W9SPAMD $149.00 $4.681 $149.00 $4.68 Need help with this page? ThinkPad T60 Model 1953EAU Configured price $2,027.00 * Lease price$64.00 per month for 36 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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