USparc Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Since the RF-3 mk II 's are out I was wondering what the changes are. Well BobG answered this in the forum >> Technical Questions >> "II" version of reference series: "There are a number of changes to Mk II. Monster Cable internal wiring Grilles with beveled chin piece and modified mounting Bigger feet installed at factory New wood finishes Snap-lock ports (also in subs and Synergy models) Klipsch logo on front panel Convoluted foam acoustic damping material New packaging" The important thing is the monster cable internal wiring. Why???? This is the only change that could make a sound difference, the others are just cosmetic except for the damping material. So I had to know what wiring is used in the original RF-3's. After removing the terminal plate AWM 1007 vw-1 18AWG REI HSING cable were discovered. Looks flimsy. Here it is : http://www.reihsing.com/en1007.htm. Just installation cable for general purpose???? This has to be changed. Let's tweak. Since my very good experience with FTP cable as speaker wire, the answer for the internal cables wasn't far away. These cables are better then the kimber 4TC's(tested). Since I use 3 braided FTP cables(RF-3rewired.jpg) for each speaker I extended the 3 cables to each driver unit (RF-3rewired2.jpg). I added also some good damping material at the horn location.(RF-3horn.jpg) THE RF-3 tFTP 's ARE BORN!!!! Result: The result of my external cable is now further extended. A lot of detail in the high. The low is extended and well defined. The mid is very smooth. The dynamics are extreme and everything is perfectly separated. Best tweak ever. Taught that cable didn't make a difference. Was I wrong, very wrong!! My motivation to use FTP: See my post forums >> Technical Questions >> audio cables... ------------------ ------------------------- Receiver: Onkyo 676 DVD: Pioneer DV-525 Screen: Thomson 46" RetroProjection Front: RF-3 tFTP Rear: RF-3 tFTP Center: RC-3 tFTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USparc Posted December 6, 2001 Author Share Posted December 6, 2001 few, 72 views and still no replies. Ok, I understand. You get suddenly quiet after seen those pictures and started your own re-wiring project!! Have fun. ------------------ ------------------------- Receiver: Onkyo 676 DVD: Pioneer DV-525 Screen: Thomson 46" RetroProjection Front: RF-3 tFTP Rear: RF-3 tFTP Center: RC-3 tFTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 It looks great! how much did it cost you? ------------------ -justin I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Nice work,I am a bit lazy and may nor change the wires in my R series Klipsches(RF-7's,RF-5's,RB-5's and RC-7) Anyway its good to see the nice mods you did. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Glad to see someone doing the Cat5 wire tweek. I'm just finishing up my twisted FEP Cat5 cables. I have enough to wire everything including X-overs and internal speaker wire connections for my Chorus II's. It's been slow and I hope it's worth the effort. Thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USparc Posted December 8, 2001 Author Share Posted December 8, 2001 justin_tx_16 Well each RF-3 needs about a total of 90 " FTP cable. An RC-3 has enough with 40". So that makes a total length of 400" that is about 35ft. The FTP cable costs 0.085$/ft, so for the cable it is 3$. Then there are the clips for connecting the drivers. 6 clips / speaker = 30 clips at 0.15$. That is 4.5$. A total of 7.5$ would be the price for rewiring all 5 speakers. For the external cables I ordered 400 ft FTP cable: that is about 35$. The most expensive were the banana's. 3.5$ each. For 20 banana's : 70$. TheEAR The RF-5-7 are wired with Z-series from monster. I don't know how they look like and sounds, but probably not like the RF-3's REI HSING flimsy cables. I hope that BobG will fill this in. mike stehr It will be worth it, just be patient!! good look!!! ------------------ ------------------------- Receiver: Onkyo 676 DVD: Pioneer DV-525 Screen: Thomson 46" RetroProjection Front: RF-3 tFTP Rear: RF-3 tFTP Center: RC-3 tFTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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