Kyler Cavers Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hey everyone, man it's been so long since i've been on here...[:|]. How the heck is everyone? I mean those who remember me haha. Well to tell you all the truth for the last almost 2 years I havn't had the freedom of enjoying my Klipsch properly, my setup has been jammed up in a crowded pathetic living room so listening experience isn't the same as when I first got my setup back in 03, but i'm moving in two months so all will change. It's kinda funny, you ever walk into your local speaker store or what have you knowing very well you don't "NEED" anything but have to glance? Well I did that and lol... I started thinking. I have the RF-3ll's and oh how I do love the black cones, but thats dead and gone I figure it's time to upgrade so I've decided to sell my towers to my good friend for more then a fair price. So heres what I'm thinking, "RF-82's" basically the reinvented RF-3ll's and I can get em for the same I payed for the RF's which is great; I need some help though here guys...I have an old H/K 125 receiver and am thinkin about the new Pioneer 1016k, any opinions on that receiver? Also, the more important question.. and well, being that the RF-83's are the pricey flagship I'm not going all out for those, I wonder though.. the RF-63s? would three 6.5's be better then two 8's? I havn't had the luxury of hearing the 63's. So I dunno, tell me what you all think, and nice to be back on here..been a loooooonnnnngggg time [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Go Heritage!!! (If you've got the room...) Pat on the Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest BobG Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Benefits of the RF-63 over the RF-82. Triple 6.5" woofers in the enclosure size of the RF-63 outperforms the dual 8s in the RF-82The HF compression driver in the RF-63 is WAY better than the driver in the RF-82Cosmetically the RF-63 enclosure is nicer than the RF-82 but that may not be a factor in your decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Interesting Bob, Trey and I were discussing this comparison last night and I was saying I can't wait to get in there and give them a good side-by-side. Can you expound on your comments? ie, I know that 3x 6.5 sounds like it would be more cone area than the 2x8, but how is it better? Does the 63 share the 83's driver/horn assembly and the X2 series have a smaller vc or ?? How does the cabinet work compare, again is the 63 in same family as 83 and others are in different league? EDIT- ok I did some detective work, see below. About a week and half to go- I'm getting anxious to start! Better go sort some more photos! Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I'll try to do my own research, gotta learn these products quickly! Here's the 63 tech info Exclusive Tractrix® Horns have always been the key component of this critically acclaimed series. In the RF-63, this technology has been refined to include improved throat geometry for a more genuine, lifelike sound. Behind the horn lies a professional-grade 1.25-inch titanium diaphragm compression driver to provide a unique combination of precision, clarity and effortless power. Featuring an all-new driver layout, the RF-63 employs triple 6.5-inch high-output woofers with large motor structures for a solid bass foundation and greater control, output and power handling. These Cerametallic woofers with inverted copper dust caps exhibit a very high stiffness-to-mass ratio and superb damping characteristics. The RF-63's rigid cabinet offers improved internal cross-bracing to minimize panel vibrations that can color sound and three rear-firing ports to eliminate turbulence noise. Increased baffle ribbing in the lower panel and around the horn mouth dramatically improve acoustics across the sonic range. For signal purity and perfect driver integration, the crossover on the RF-63 features the finest components and Klipsch custom internal wiring. Premium binding posts ensure superior connectivity. Available in either a cherry or black real wood veneer finish, the RF-63 comes with a knife-edge back and low-diffraction, magnetically attached grille to further accentuate the elegance of this speaker. RF-63 Specifications frequency response30Hz-21kHz +/-3dB power handling175W RMS / 700W Peak sensitivity99dB @ 2.83V / 1m nominal impedance8 ohms compatible high frequency drivers1.25" (3.2cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver mated to 90x60 square Tractrix® Horn high freq crossover1700Hz low frequency driversTriple 6.5" (16.5cm) High-output Cerametallic cone woofers enclosure typeBass-reflex via triple rear-firing ports height46.1" (117.1cm) (w/feet) width8.5" (21.6cm) depth19.5" (49.5cm) weight81lbs (36.8kg) finishesCherry or Black Ash wood veneer built from2006 Tags: Floorstand, Reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 And the 82 Exclusive Tractrix® Horns have always been the key component of this critically acclaimed series. In the RF-82, this technology has been refined to include improved throat geometry for a more genuine, lifelike sound. Behind the horn lies a 1-inch titanium tweeter with a large ceramic motor structure to provide a unique combination of precision, clarity and effortless power. The RF-82 employs dual 8-inch woofers for a solid bass foundation These Cerametallic woofers with inverted copper dust caps exhibit a very high stiffness-to-mass ratio and superb damping characteristics. The RF-82's rigid cabinet offers improved internal cross-bracing to minimize panel vibrations that can color sound and twin rear-firing ports to eliminate turbulence noise. Increased baffle ribbing in the lower panel and around the horn mouth dramatically improve acoustics across the sonic range. For signal purity and perfect driver integration, the crossover on the RF-82 features the finest components and Klipsch custom internal wiring. Available in either a cherry or black woodgrain vinyl finish, the RF-82 comes with a low-diffraction, magnetically attached grille to further accentuate the elegance of this speaker. RF-82 Specifications frequency response33Hz-23kHz +/-3dB power handling150W RMS / 600W Peak sensitivity98dB @ 2.83V / 1m nominal impedance8 ohms compatible high frequency drivers1" (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver mated to 90x60 square Tractrix® Horn high freq crossover2000Hz low frequency driversDual 8" (20.3cm) Cerametallic cone woofers enclosure typeBass-reflex via dual rear-firing ports height43.6" (110.7cm) (w/feet) width9.5" (24.1cm) depth16.25" (41.3cm) weight66lbs (30kg) finishesCherry or Black Ash woodgrain vinyl built from2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Without hearing either of the two cabinets, the 63 has 1.25 titanium driver to the 82's 1", 63 is -1 to 30 Hz vs 33 Hz, 99 db efficient vs 98, and is real wood veneer. 3x 6.5 is approx 100 in sq cone area (measured as flat circle) 2x8 is also about 100 in sq cone area. so no huge difference in that measurement. Which SOUNDS better, give me a couple weeks and I'll set em up and give a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyler Cavers Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 If I do remember correctly the RF-5 was $2500 retail compared the the RF-3's $1400 retail, if were talking the same price jump here between the 82 and 63 then I don't think I want to spend it regardless of the 3rd woofer, I can get the 82's for a grand even (cdn) which sounds mighty fine to me. Heres another question, how does the new 82 compare to my RF-3ll's..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 RF-63 $1,798* (Pair) msrp RF-82 $998.00(Pair) msrp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 ah, well that'd make a difference also. I'd expect the RF63 to pretty much kick the 82's butt for that step up in price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyboy Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I have the Pioneer 2016 receiver, which is basically the same as the 1016. As far as I can tell, the only difference is that the 2016 puts out 130w per channel as apposed to 110. But anyway, I absolutely love my receiver. It's a lot of unit for the price range that it's in. I definitely suggest the Pioneer. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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