wsu99999 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I went to best buy and they had a F-3 setup and a B-3 Setup. The B-3 sounded clearer, more loud, and fresh. The F-3 honestly sounded like crap. Is this due to poor setup? If I hooked an F3 up to an HK AVR 745 would it be better? Better than the B-3? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catharsis147 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Best Buy typicaly sets up speakers poorly. "Better" is subjective, although I have found that floorstanders add a bit of extra "ooomph" than an equivalent bookshelf, especially without a sub. I would probably go with the F-3 and see if you can get it to work with your room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsu99999 Posted August 3, 2007 Author Share Posted August 3, 2007 In case anyone reads this who is thinking about purchasing a pair of either the floorstanding or bookshelf speakers. I took the bookshelfs home for about a week (B-3). They sounded great. Today, I went back to Bestbuy and purchased the F-2's. WOW. They are amazing. I can't believe how much of a difference it made to my home theater. I HIGHLY reccomend ANYONE who is considering getting the bookshelfs to get them and then try the floor speakers if you have the power for em. Now I'm wondering if I should go upgrade everything to the 3 series (f3, s3, and c3) since I have the avr 745 on the way. Is the change from the 2 series to the 3 series drastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterxela Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 save yourself LOTS of money in the long run, and audition the upper end reference floorstanders. rf-7's used run about the same as f-3's new if i remember, or close enough to ditch the f-3's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 wsu, First of all....welcome to the forum. I totally agree with masterxela. Dtel and I purchased a complete Synergy setup before we found the forum. After reading and asking a lot of questions of our fellow members we opted to purchase used Heritage speakers...they were in our budget. That being said, I have heard the Reference line and I can assure you.....if you are impressed with the f-3's the RF 7's would really impress you...and while I am not sure on the pricing, I think the difference in $$$ would be $$$ well spent. Each step up with Klipsch only further improves your listening experience. Again, welcome to the forum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsu99999 Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 Thanks for the response - Where can I go to get the Rf-7's. Aren't they discontinued? I have seen a pair on Ebay, but the shipping on them was like 300 bucks. Does anyone know of any stores near Seattle that would carry these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 WSU, Are you in a real hurry to purchase new speakers? Didn't you say you already purchased new speakers....can you get a refund or only exchange them? If not, slow down a little bit and read a lot on this forum. I wish we would have known about the forum before we purchased our Synergy set up. If you have speakers you can live with for just a little while....take your time....in doing so you will be a lot happier with your purchase in the long run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 Also, give us an idea of your budget....that way we can help you a little better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsu99999 Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 Also... The Rf-7's need 250 watts. The Avr 745 doesn't come close to this. Rated at 85/ch, I've seen benchmark results putting this number over 150/ch but that still leaves a lot of needed power. I don't have enough money to buy an external 500 watt amp, and then I would need something to power the new surrounds I would need to buy. I can certinally take back my synergy setup and get a full refund = so an exchange isn't out of the question = but the R-7 series was Klipsch's flagship a few years back - I can't see being able to find a complete setup of it for the same price as the F-3's or even close. I may be wrong-and if I am please correct me. I just want the best bang for my buck, and I want a system that isnt going to leave me wanting more in 6 months. A little story - I baught a bose system a few months back (which is now used as a 2nd system in a projector room) and it truely left me wanting more. I don't want klipsch to do the same thing to me. If upgrading from the synergy F2 system to the F3 system is a huge difference - I want to do it. If there is something better than the F3 that isn't outrageously priced - and much better - I really would rather go that route. I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONES IMPUT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsu99999 Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 I did just buy them, so my time is rushed - I have about 10 days to end up with my complete system otherwise I'm stuck with what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 What is your budget for the speakers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsu99999 Posted August 4, 2007 Author Share Posted August 4, 2007 Right now I have about 1200 invested into the F-2's C2 and S2's. If I go the F-3 system route, it will only cost 50 more for the s-3, I will probably stick with the c-2 and the f-3's are a few hundred more. I make a lot of money so I'm not that concerned with the budget, but I don't need the most "high end" equipment. I just want to make sure the next step up isn't an amazing difference. I don't mind spending a bit of extra money for a huge increase in performance. If the step above f-3 is a new world, I would really want to get it. If not, then I will probably stick with the F-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 you have a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 If you have the budget and the room, go Heritage. It will really take your listening and enjoyment to the next level and you may be set for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted August 4, 2007 Moderators Share Posted August 4, 2007 Thanks for the input Islander. I really appreciate it....I am trying to give wsu a little advice on Heritage products through the pm system, so everyone else doesn't get bored reading....any input from any other forum members would be greatly appreciated. I think we should let him know how great Heritage speakers are compared to what he is considering!!!![] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutter Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 i have the synergy III F-3 complete system which includes S-3, C-3's and sub12. I've had them for a year. it rocks, and i am completely satisfied with it. it fulfills my every sonic need. i also have the AW650's on the deck. that being said, i never had the opportunity to audition any of the reference series, nobody in my area carries them. everything I've read about them here makes me think i would have wanted them instead. But I'm sure i wouldn't have been able to completely pay for the whole system with best buy cards as i did my synergy's. not a penny out of pocket. makes my ears and wallet happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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